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F&B Sipper Satin Southwest Facing

27 days ago

Hi! I am getting custom cabinets done for my kitchen and chose slipper satin for the cabinets but am second guessing. does anyone know how this color acts in a southwest facing room? two windows are more northwest facing but there are lots of windows and natural light in my home!

thanks!

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  • 27 days ago
    last modified: 27 days ago

    What did you do to test this color in your kitchen space? What size swatches on what surfaces? Will your floors and lighting change in the new kitchen? Did you view this at all times of day? What season is it?


    I used a well regarded color consultant when moving to my apartment in NYC because I wanted to nail the colors and didn't have tons of time to experiment. He selected slipper satin for my large home office, even though I said I didn't want anything cool and nothing with a hint of grey.

    My office is west - not southwest. Looking at the sample, I was concerned it would look grey but Mr. Genius said it would not. I second guessed his selection but went with it thinking he was the genius, what do I know? I ended up trying to like it for two and a half years and finally just had the room repainted.

    I'm lucky to have lots of windows and great light in my home with unobstructed views. And, I love warm neutrals.

    Although slipper satin is described as warm and creamy, it really picked up the river outside my window and just threw blue and cool around the room.

    Not a thing felt creamy or warm about it even during incredible sunsets when the rest of my apartment was drenched in soft peach or honey colored light. Even when I played with warmer bulbs at night, it still read cool. It drove me nuts. I finally had the room repainted white tie because I'm in love with the color no matter the location.

    Do my circumstances have anything to do with yours? Your lighting, your setting - likely not. But I do know what it is like to second guess this color that looked to me nothing at all like what others describe it to be.

  • PRO
    27 days ago

    Well we cannot help with no context . F&B paint has a way of changing color during the day I have used String a few times and it really changes with the natural light. You need to test a color in your space with your light and of course natural light is lovely but when the sun goes down thta light changes , That is why I choose all LED 4000K light in my home it is as close to bright sunlight as it gets .

  • 27 days ago

    Everyone here is right - you have to sample the color in your home in the room that you are using it in to see how the lighting will impact the color. The other thing and probably more important is how it works with the flooring and countertop that you have selected and how it relates to the existing homes overall color palette.



  • 27 days ago
    last modified: 27 days ago

    benjamin moore does a lot of customer service . their staff at your local pro paint store will at least give you the equivalent BM paint cards for this FARROW and B paint. tape them up around at eye level in different areas of the space . The slipper satin is considered a warm off white..good for N facing situations....in general I like the shade but you can evaluate it a little more precisely, if you want to. I have some SW exoposure in the kitchen/dining area..I find the glare not comfortable at times so sheer coverings are used quite often in my situation..... is your SW exposure BRIGHT and SUNNY often..and will you be welcoming this? will you diffuse it ? I cant control the four seasons nor the exposure of my windows and the tree canopy or lack thereof [AKA winter] so window treatments w flexibility and some attention to surfaces inside does come into play. You can probably pick a cooler paint shade but your pick is very pale even if slightly warm toned. Adjacent counters/ tile/floor will be a bigger part of this .

  • 27 days ago

    Benjamin Moore can make dupes and color matches for FB paints, but they really don’t behave the same as FB paints do.


    Everytime I have had custom cabinets made, my cabinetmaker has made a sample door for me. Ask for this and use it to test in your space. Nothing - not even FB paint from a can is going to behave the same way as the color on wood from your cabinet maker along with whatever additive process is used to harden and cure the paint on the cabinet.


    There is no substitute for a sample door. Cabinets are too expensive of an investment not to ask for one.


    Also, if warm is what you are after, there are plenty of other warm FB paints. I think there is a reason why it is one of their less popular neutrals.

  • 27 days ago
    last modified: 27 days ago

    The real question is if the painter or cabinet person is actually using F&B paint, or are they color matching it to another brand of cabinet paint?

    If they are color matching, have them do a sample door so you can see how close they get and if you really like the color.

    Personally I wouldn't want kitchen cabinets in this color, but you didn't say where these cabinets are going.

    Here is F&B Slipper Satin against BM White Dove walls. Trim in background is BM Chantilly Lace.


  • 27 days ago

    “Slipper Satin often reads as a pale grey chalk“ - from FB website. For less grey sample pointing or wimborne white.

  • 26 days ago
    last modified: 26 days ago

    Our great room faces SW and we used Kelly Moore Swiss Coffee for the walls and love it. Paint companies have their own Swiss Coffee but it's not the same. Ask at the store if they can match the Kelly Moore color formula.

  • PRO
    26 days ago

    Too much missing info and only you can test drive the color on poster board in your space . For me an odd color for cabinets I think it will be dificult to find a counter to start and then wall color , trim color it all has to work togethr with the floor too

  • 25 days ago
    last modified: 25 days ago

    @Patricia Colwell Consulting my house is currently all drywall so unfortunately i cant compare slipper satin to my finishes inside my home but i do have a cabinet sample with the color from my carpenter and i love it. we gutted our home and are doing a full remodel. my main question is how the color shows in southwest facing rooms but after reading comments, I understand why that question is hard to answer. my finishes are

    - calacatta caldia marble countertops

    - swiss coffee walls

    - clear walnut island (dark stain)

    - unlaquered brass perrin and rowe bridge faucet

    - unlaquered brass rejuvenation handles

    - kohler farmhouse cast iron white sink

    - wolf stainless steel range 48 inch with brass knobs

    - light/light medium white oak floor

    slipper satin is for the cabinets on the perimeter of my kitchen/surrounding my island. i do have designers who have helped me choose everything but they personally have never used slipper satin before. Ive seen it used in other homes (thats how i originally found the color) and loved it, particularly in a home that has similar finishes as mine will. my style is european/traditional.

    our home has an incredible view, as it sits on a hill, so when you look out the window, you see tall trees and lots of greenery in spring/summer (there are other houses as well but we are high enough up so you mostly just see roofs), a lake further away, and a mountain range on the other side of the lake. ive read slipper satin can appear slightly pink/peach but im hoping the greenery balances that. I originally chose SW Creamy but i read it can can turn pretty yellow in southwest facing rooms and while i love cream and am fine with some yellow, i was worried it would be too much.

    its just hard to know how slipper satin will read with all the light in my home but I cant wait until my other finishes are done to make a decision since cabinets will be 6-8 weeks out once i order them. im going with slipper satin and hoping for the best!

  • 25 days ago

    its just hard to know how it will read with all the light in my home


    Are you not able to bring the cabinet sample into your home and look at it there? Then you can see how it reads in your particular light and at different places around the room. Sure, it won't look the same with drywall as with painted walls but you can still tell a lot.


    ive read slipper satin can appear slightly pink/peach but im hoping the greenery balances that.


    Very interesting. In my office, a section of the wall was super pink. We presumed the contractor messed up and painted that section of the wall with our bedroom paint (dimity, which has a very red undertone). It looked really awful, especially since the rest of the space was reflecting so much blue from the river. Maybe it wasn't the contractor's fault? Perhaps it was just the paint? Nothing about the rest of the walls had even a hint of pink in them.


    I wouldn't count on greenery "balancing" a pink undertone. Test, test, test in your space. No subtitute.


  • 25 days ago
    last modified: 25 days ago

    @Kendrah i have tested it in my home and i like it! And since making this post, i did test it during sunset in the home and thought it looked good so i hope once everything is finished it will look even better when it is not against drywall.

    interesting! it could have been the hue of the color because in golden sunset light it can turn peachy, but if none of the other walls reflected the same, maybe it was a mistake! glad you were able to repaint the room something you love.

  • 25 days ago
    last modified: 25 days ago

    Good advice already - I’m not sure if you’ve seen any of Kylie M content on Swiss Coffee? I was originally going to do our walls in that but it seemed tricky in our lighting (east facing)

    https://www.kylieminteriors.ca/paint-colour-review-benjamin-moore-swiss-coffee-oc-45/

  • PRO
    25 days ago

    Please stick with F&B no comparison to SW . I think you will be fine with all the choices it is always overthink time when you get close to the end of a renovation , been there many times.

  • 25 days ago

    It sounds like you have thoroughly tested your cabinet. Have you held it up against a large samplize swatch of Swiss Coffee in your kitchen space, around the room, different times of day?


    You can always switch up your wall color after the install.


    I hope you will come back and post pics when your project is complete. I love the sound of all of your finishes together.

  • PRO
    24 days ago
    last modified: 24 days ago

    Slipper Satin may not be the best choice, IMO, with south and west light. Both orientation bring a tone of yellow into the room, the light probably will give the cabinets a green undertone.

    Take a look at B.M. Silver Satin, shown here from Decor Pad. It is an off white, and the undertone will work better with the south and west light.


    vs. this photo from Farrow & Ball of Slipper Satin on cabinets.



    This is why I don't think it will work with the the natural light.