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jabelone

14 years ago
last modified: 14 years ago
Okay, I know, I know, this crooked pipe looks bad. It goes at an angle to avoid a structural beam overhead. The thing is, there's no place to move the wood stove and here in Canada we need the heat. It gets used, as you can see from the picture. So the design dilemna; we tore down the brick. It looked wrong only going halfway and wasn't the style we like. It already looks better but would welcome some opinions on if we should rebuild it with stacked stone or something all the way to the ceiling. We probably will replace the woodstove itself with the one pictured here, but again, the pipe still has to be crooked to miss the structural beam. Appreciate thoughts.

Comments (29)

  • 14 years ago
    I think bringing stacked stone (or whatever wall treatment you decide on) all the way to the ceiling would go a LONG way to take attention away from the pipe, for sure.
  • PRO
    14 years ago
    Here's what it looks like on the other side (exterior) of the fireplace wall. I hope the picture illustrates why we can't go out through the wall. The beam runs through to the outside as well to a supporting post, so the pipe would still have to go around it outside anyway (exposed), which would look as bad - or worse (and require a new hole in our metal roof as well). So unfortunately, we're stuck with the crooked pipe.
  • 14 years ago
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    Hi - My question is if your going to all that trouble changing things then can the location of the stove go somewhere else ? Corner arrangements make it hard to decorate the room. We are Canadians also and have a wood stove -- we changed the stove pipe to right above and out and up the outside - then you can put your stone up the whole wall. If that can't be done then box out a wall and enclose the pipe and then put your stone up to the top going around the beam . I like the new stove -it's a little more modern and stylish.
  • PRO
    14 years ago
    How about covering it with a decorative beam? Like the ones here?
    http://www.woodboardsandbeams.com/reclaimedbeams.html
  • 14 years ago
    Here's my wood stove with corner installation.
  • 14 years ago
    As far as the chimney pipe options, go to hearth.com ... post your pictures. The posters there are expert wood burners and will help you with options!
  • 14 years ago
    "How about covering it with a decorative beam? Like the ones here?
    http://www.woodboardsandbeams.com/reclaimedbeams.html"

    You can't cover a chimney pipe as it will catch the beam on fire. You have to have clearances to flammables.
  • 14 years ago
    What if you replaced the brick with gray-blue slate tiles all the way to the ceiling? You could have the front of the stove re-chromed, and the pipe would blend in with the slate instead of standing out.
  • 14 years ago
    I would definitely go with natural stone all the way to the ceiling. If your looking for a more traditional, cottage feel, then go with the rounded boulder veneer. If your looking for something more modern, go with the really linear cut stone veneers.
    I would actually put the stone on the side walls as well, but maybe stop under the window sills. This is so that it matches the width of the hearth .
  • 14 years ago
    I agree you should build out. You can clad the wall in stone if you wish but building it out would create a pocket in which you can hide the pipe. Ugly sketch, I know, but the idea is that you don't have to just do a flat corner but one with a little more depth. Really, sorry for the ugliness of sketch but I'm fixing to get out of the office right now. And sorry if I got the scale of the fireplace wrong.
  • 14 years ago
    You might also run your straight chimney pipe up taller and start your 45 elbow and slanted pipe and 45 elbow more towards the ceiling as long as you keep combustible distances per the install. It would not draw the eye so much. I assume it's double walled pipe inside?
  • 14 years ago
    Designers==you cannot enclose a wood stove like that. Stoves have to be cleaned, stove pipes need to be accessible and there are safety installation codes for each stove for distance to combustibles.
  • 14 years ago
    I have two suggestions. The first is to stack black, or dark grey slate all the way up the wall so there's not a lot of contrast between the wall and the black pipe. My second suggestions is to build out a wall from the ceiling to just below the bend in the pipe. By the looks of the windows on the sides, you would probably have to make a rounded, semi-circle wall. The stove will tuck under the wall. This may not pass code though. And, if you're going through all that trouble, you might as well build the wall all the way to the ground and get an insert.
  • 14 years ago
    Yes admaven Most of us are all aware of that -- I also have a woodstove and there are somethings that can be done - but they have to find what of any of our ideas will work for them in their area .I changed my wood stove a bit and had it checked out by the powers that be. If most people would just think things out before they put a stove in - then these design problems would not be so hard to fix. Why people have the need to stick a stove and or a fireplace in a corner it's just bad design and planing . Yes a stove pipe can be builtin but it has to be an insulated pipe with a cleanout not the one they have now. You would have to check with a dealer installer. Other wise the only thing that can be done is to disquise it with a black slate wall as mentioned before.
  • 14 years ago
    Then you know that if you overfire your stove and the stovepipe starts glowing red your house could burn down....so that last thing you need is to have the stovepipe enclosed so you can't see it. Stoves do overfire. I'm just more concerned with the safety of the family than what the pipe looks like. My stove is a corner install on a raised hearth. I was ignorant of wood stove safety when I married my husband and he had one. I have since learned alot and just wanted to make sure everyone is aware of the safety issues involved in using one.
  • 14 years ago
    I have a big insulated pipe on my stove so it doesn't glow red - it doesn't even get hot - it actually is cold to the touch when the stove is going . It is insulated with cocrete between the two pipes. Much safer --- you should look into it for your stove.
  • 14 years ago
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    I'd forget the stacked stone right now. I found a photo with a stove & black stove-pipe very much like yours. Their hearth is black. I think the black hearth detracts from the problem you describe. I think if you painted the hearth brick black and had no stone behind the stove (only plain wall) and painted your walls a similar color to theirs (taupe) your room would be beautiful. They have a white ceiling, but your wood ceiling is much nicer. They also have blinds at the windows and the blinds look very nice, too. Maybe some day install stacked stone to the ceiling, but I'm not sure you need it. I think you just need to paint the hearth brick black and the walls taupe.
    http://www.fireplacevillage.net/blog/index.php/2011/05/stove-pipe-inspection-is-an-important-part-of-wood-stove-maintenance/
  • PRO
    14 years ago
    last modified: 14 years ago
    Crooked angle in the pipe is unfortunate, stacked stone to the ceiling definitely! I'd build it out, encase the pipe, and clad with a gorgeous stacked stone original to Canada, like rundle or slate staggered stack. Pick a colour (like photos attached) that bring out the gorgeous wood tone of your ceiling. Last photo is of an inset firebox, not as attractive, but you may prefer this to a flush stone fireplace. Disregard the comments from j222b, as the heat that is generated from a natural stove like this needs either stone or metal encasement to protect your walls (and home) from burning down! So, please put a stone / tile / metal surround of some sort to protect the walls. Good luck to you!
  • PRO
    14 years ago
    Do the wall in black, paint the pipe orange and love it. Make your imperfections an asset. I would try to move the insulated pipe a little higher since that is the most unattractive part of your setup. Now that I look at it that bothers me much more than the angled exhaust. Move that up and paint it black and you will be fine.
  • 14 years ago
    Certainly *if* it is dangerous to paint the hearth brick black, do not paint the hearth brick black. But, please *do* look at the link-photo in my post above & below. The black hearth grounds the stove and fixes the problem easily, I do not know what the black material is, Designer Hebson says it looks like stone or metal. Here's the link again: http://www.fireplacevillage.net/blog/index.php/2011/05/stove-pipe-inspection-is-an-important-part-of-wood-stove-maintenance/
  • 14 years ago
    PS If using stacked stone, you'll have to reinforce the entire back wall as this video recommends. Or your wall might fall down eventually: http://www.hgtv.com/video/stacked-stone-fireplace-video/index.html
  • 14 years ago
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    Well this has been a war of ideas and such -- but -- think about just putting a panel of pressed tin behind -it will go with the new wood stove and I think it would look awsome . They come in 4x8 or 4x4 ft panels and many patterns. The pipe is what it is and thats all you can do . So let it be part of the design, it really doesn't matter if the rest looks great ! Look up TIN CEILINGS from Steptoe & Wife - they ship. Their in Canada - Toronto I think steptoewife.com PS -- also have a look at concrete tiles - they come in so many colors and styles - something differant if your not into the tin.
  • 14 years ago
    Just found out that Steptoe isn't selling tin ceilings panels anymore but others carry them. Google them for your area.
  • 14 years ago
    had a similar problem. run the pipe straight up as far as possible. build a wooden valance that matches your beam to hide the pipe jog.
  • PRO
    14 years ago
    Not a lot you can do as far as the chimney pipe. Just repainting the stove and chimney, would make a huge difference. Dave Midwest Fireplace Olathe Ks
  • PRO
    14 years ago
    Thanks everyone. A lot of interesting unexpected ideas there. I think some were suggesting we do something like image one here, but we have windows at either side of the fireplace and the pipe comes out too far (3 ft) to cover it like that without blocking the windows. And of course, safety is always a major concern with fireplaces. We are aware of the many code restrictions. We found a woodstove with an off-center pipe that might work (image 2) but it is European and not permitted by code here. The position of the bend is fixed by the double-walled pipe at the ceiling. We like the stone Marie showed, have considered that exact one, but wonder if something darker wouldn't make the pipe less obvious. We do plan to make a black hearth for sure as the current brick one is crumbling (probably out of concrete or slate). As you can see, no simple solution, we just have to work with it. Thanks again for all the input.
  • 8 years ago

    How about moving the stove over a bit, so the chimney runs straight up, and then adding a nice wood rack and maybe a shelf next to it to fill in the space?

  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    Here are some solutions I found. They tend to involve adding a bit more visual distraction at the point of the bend.