Hi, I think the first is "elephant bush" or "baby jade."

Nr. 2 MAYBE Echeveria von nurnberg ???

Formal name for 1st plant is Portulacaria afra. (yes, commonly called baby jade, but not actually related to Crassulas at all; another problem w/ common names)

Common name was just to give her something to google. I wasn't 100% sure of the proper name.

I'm sure the second is Echeveria Perle von Nurnberg, but I cant ID the third. I've seen it, but don't recall the name.

I'll go with sempervivum of some kind on the last one. Looks like one I had and promptly killed -____-

Could've been lack of light, wrong potting soil & or the fact that I tried to keep it inside, lol!

#3 reminds me of Graptoveria 'Fanfare' (or is it Sedeveria?)....I wouldn't think of sempervivum with such long, narrow and smooth looking leaves?

Could we get a bigger photo pls?

Hi Lauren,

FYI: I gave the formal name for the same reason.

I know from prior experience that some folks refer to Peperomia obtusifolia as 'baby Jade' as well, was trying to reduce confusion for search purposes.

I assumed that once she googled it, she could see from images which was which. I just have a bit more faith in peoples' ability to use critical thinking skills.

Perhaps, perhaps not.

Not all searches yield pix, not all searchers know how to call up images, much less isolate for them.

If she can figure out how to post a picture here, I think she can find images on Google. I'd prefer not to treat people like idiots.

Thank you everyone for your comments and help so far. If you are not able to zoom in on the third photo for better identification, I can post an additional photo. Let me know!

Lauren,

Guess you assume a certain level of computer proficiency here; I don't.

Plenty of folks still have trouble posting pics to these sites post Houzz, it's been a problem for more than a few, guess you haven't seen that.

Daniway, you're welcome.

daniway

I already asked about posting better pic please. While few views are good (excellent), if not enough detail is seen it doesn't help.

Lmonstella,

yes, I do assume that, and with good reason, I would argue. She clearly did not have trouble uploading pics to the site, so it is logical to assume that she can work Google.

The point is and was that I can give a common name, and she can do a google search for more information.

Given that no one had bothered to respond yet, I'd say that the common name is better than nothing.

I am a professor, and I know better than most that you can't assume that people have prior or tangential knowledge. But I also think you can assume that if she can google her way to this site, she can google her way to the proper name of a plant once she is given the common name.

@rina_Ontario,Canada(5a)

do these photos help any?

Lauren,

Though its safe to assume one knows how to use google, its shouldn't be assumed that they have the knowledge to know what they are looking for.

Common names are tricky because many plants have the same common names, though are not even closely related. Scientific names are more exact and OP can find out information about the plant without having to search through multiple plants of the same common name.

Though in this case the kinds of "baby jade" are very distinctive and its fairly easy to find the exact plant from the common name, other times it presents a problem.

For example, many species of the Pachypodiums are called simply "Madagascar Palms". If one has an uncommon pachypodium with the common name of 'Madagascar Palm", nearly all search results will consist of P. lamerei-the most common pachypodium, and without further knowledge, he will be unable to identify his plant by common name alone.

Anyway, if we have the knowledge on the definite and exact plant, why not make it more convenient for OP, instead of having them search for the ID themselves based on common name?

As I said, Garrett, I answered when no one else had responded. So if the common name was all I could come up with, it is better than nothing.

i couldn't think of the proper name, so I gave the common name. If someone wants to chime in with the proper name, great, even better.

thats pretty much all I have to say on the matter. It's a dumb thing to keep arguing about. I will give the name I can give. You give the one you can give.. Going back and forth about it will not change that. That is how I will contribute to the board when it comes to naming plants. Feel free to come along behind me and give the proper name.

That's why there are numerous people on the board. Each helps in his or her own way.

can we be done with this, please ?

Not a sempervivium, semperviviums ALWAYS have tiny, harmless "teeth" along the leaf margins. Also, sempervivium leaves ALWAYS connect to the stem surrounding at least 1/3 of the stem, if not much more.

I think I found it- Graptoveria 'fanfare'

Garrett

that is what I suggested too (posted last Friday...)

I can't see it well enough to tell whether it has teeth or not, but you likely have a much better screen than my little 2.5" phone screen.

I did not know about the leaf attachment. That is a nice piece of information. Thanks.

Garret, I presume your caps are for accent in lieu of italics, right? You aren't really yelling at me, are you?

Sorry rina- I had no idea, guess you beat me to it.

Kwie- I bolded it to stand out after my first sentences which had nothing to do with OP's plant. In no way did I mean offense.

Not offended. :-)

Garrett - np at all, pls. always post! I mentioned it only since you were also suggesting the same. I wasn't 100% if it is the plant and also if it is Graptoveria or Sedeveria. I also agree with it not being a semp.

Ugh. I didn't realize there were larger pictures posted later. Might've changed my mind. It looks quite different in those.

Garret & Rina, as long as you're here, can you ID the sempervivum that looks similar? It has bugged me ever since I almost bought one, but I'd never seen it again until now. This image is part of a photo in the eBay listing described above. It's the plant in the middle of the bottom row.

I have one just like it - unknown pup. I think the parent might have been a Graptoveria 'fanfare' but the pups are more variegated - fading from darker green in the outer leaves to pale in the new leaves.

Kwie

Sorry, I really can't ID the pictured (eBay) semp - there are about 50 species, and so many named cultivars (thousands...) and probably many unnamed crosses. I have not come across one looking close to what OP's plant looks like. Pic isn't very clear either, but I am seeing tiny 'tails'-points on the leaves of it? Not comparable to OP's plant. The semp in photo you posted may not be grown as good as it could (I could be mistaken-JMO!), since leaves seem to be not as erect as they should be - searching shows plants in almost 'perfect' shape and makes it more difficult to compare.

Check 'Devil's touch' - points are red, but that is likely light exposure issue. I was just looking for a plant mostly green, and with narrower leaves.

Leslie

Maybe you can post a pic?

Forgive the soil - this was a forgotten pup. Since I discovered its awesomeness, I've moved it to gritty mix.

kwie, that is the exact plant I had, that I killed.

I'm pretty sure it was labelled as sempervivum. This sticks in my head because I would have never ever identified it as such, knowing what I know now.

That very pic you posted with the semp middle bottom row is what I though OP's plant was.

I agree that the additional pics help differentiate it from the plant you and I both thought it was =)

I'm pretty sure I picked up that semp we are talking about at Ikea, but alas, it was at least 4 years ago.

Thanks Hookilau! It's so good to know I'm not losing my mind. :-D

I emailed the seller, who thought it might be 'Crimson Web,' but that looks different to me, even if it's grown in total shade.

Thanks, Rina. I don't know if 'Devil's Touch' is the right plant either, but wow, now I want that one! So pretty.

Nice, Leslie. Sure looks the same.

Thank you everyone! After looking at photos, I believe the third plant is a graptoveria 'fanfare.' Thank you to everyone who contributed