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Does my succulent will die

9 years ago

I have 2 succulent recently. I don't know their ID. And now that 2 babies have some weird symptom

The first tree: The leaves very wrinkle and soft. After I put it out the pot to check the root. I saw the root hadn't inscet damaged. But it had some yellow brown collour in the little scucullent stem. I don't think is rot stem because when I touch it wasn't very soft and the leaves were wrinkle

The second once: The under leaves not stand as before and easy drop out (already dropped 10 leaves) but the top already open a little (may be is in the change leave season????). I already put it out the pot to check carefully. I saw the root also no damage but the stem has a little black hole. I let is out off the pot 3 days untill the hole is dry and put it in another pot

Please help me to let them survive. Tks for advance

Comments (21)

  • 9 years ago

    Hmmm. The black hole on the stem may be stem rot.


  • 9 years ago

    Actually I live in Asia. I give it sun from 6-10 hours and avoice the direct sun. Give dew everynight. With the soild I use the organic once. Here not sale any soild specialize for catus

  • 9 years ago

    I think you have two problems:). One is soil. I would get some grit. Can you get perlite or pumice? How about chicken grit? Chicken grit is small pieces of insoluble granite. When growing succulents, usually the less organic matter in the soil the better:). You need something to add to your soil to help with drainage. If you're watering once a day, then that's entirely too much.

    Your second problem is your Echeveria could use more light:). I would start giving your plant more light little by little. You want to acclimate your plant slowly or else it will burn. Goodluck:).

    One last thing always make sure your pots have drainage holes:).

    Stephanie Li thanked Kara 9b SF Bay Area CA
  • 9 years ago
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    With the thin leaves succulent I watering 2-3 times a week beacause here weather is so hot now. Before watering I use the toothpick to check wether the soil it dry or not. And I can make sure that my pot has 5 pots in the botoom

    With the soil preveiously I had put some perilite. After they being that I all put it out to let ventilate. I will try to buy some soild less organic as you say. With your experience you think they will survive or not

    This is the once which I watering 2-3 times a week before it become what you seen.

    The last weird thing I almost forget ask for your help. My succulent fall it leaves when it still green colour. Do you know the reason why. Tks to help me

  • 9 years ago
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    I don't know if it will survive. I don't have a crystal ball:). This is what I would do if this were my Echeveria. I would put it in a mixture of 50% perlite and 50% soil. Whatever soil you are using now will work. Repot into the mixture of 50% perlite and 50% soil. Along with a pot with drainage holes. All those firm leaves that fell off is due to too much water. If it's humid where you live that keeps the soil moist for longer also. If your Echeveria was dehydrated the leaves would be crispy and dry. Sometimes in succulents overwatering can mimic underwatering. If it's humid I would water once every 7-10 days, and that's only if you put at least 50% perlite in the soil.

    Also your Echeveria looks like it could use more light. You may want to start acclimating it to morning sun. Do it slowly because you do not want to burn it.

    Here's a pic of 2 Portulaca molokiniensis I just bought. I got one for free because they're very dehydrated. This is what dehydrated leaves look like:). Sorry the pic is bad it's night here:).

    Stephanie Li thanked Kara 9b SF Bay Area CA
  • 9 years ago

    Now both of them are put inside and near the windown. In the morning I always give them sunbathing. At night I give them dew. The wrinkle same to be better put it also still drop of the leaves althought the leaves colour is green. I already try to propogate hope it will work. That is the first time I can growth them so long period. So am very hopefull they will ok soon

  • 9 years ago

    In just a few words, trying to help you and your plant, as Kara said. Your plant needs more light, less water, and better soil that drains very fast. Try to give it at least several hours of bright sun a day, after you do it slowly at first to prevent sunburn. You should be able to save it. I wish you well.

    Stephanie Li thanked Barb in Eastern North Carolina, zone 8
  • 9 years ago

    Don't water 2 to 3 times a week. Once a week is enough, even in your climate, especially since it is probably very humid as well. It is a succulent so just let it store water. I think it looks dry because it is over-watered---roots can not breathe in the soil with all that water drowning it. Plant roots need air too.

    Stephanie Li thanked User
  • 9 years ago
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    Stephanie

    You said: ..."At night I give them dew"... I am assuming that you are misting - spraying with a spray bottle? That is too much moisture. Succulents grow best in dry conditions, not like tropical plants that need lots of moisture. High humidity and wet soil is a killer of succulent plants. Do not spray, and do not keep leaves wet when watering - it is roots that need water, not the leaves. Keeping leaves always (or most of the time) wet will eventually rot them. When checking soil for moisture, use something longer than a toothpick. Use bamboo skewer or chopstick, since you should check deep inside of the pot - at least 3/4 deep down.

    They would probably like more sunlight, just a few hours of morning light may not be enough. If you can, grow them outside. If not, keep them in the sunniest spot you have, but put them in best light slowly to prevent sunburn. (Sorry, I probably repeated what others said already...:)

    Stephanie Li thanked rina_Ontario,Canada 5a
  • 9 years ago

    Thanks a lot for all your help. I will take care of them carefully. I had read some web they said that: LET THE SUCCULENT SUNBATH 6-10 HOURS PER DAY REMEMBER AVOID THE DIRECT SUNLIGHT. PUT THEM OUT THE HOME AT NIGHT TO LET THEM ABSORD THE NATURAL DEW AND NEED TO PUT THEM IN THE PLACE HAVE SOMETHING HIDE AROUND TO ADVOID OVER WET. WITH WATERING IT DEPEND ON YOUR CLIMATE AND HUMID. JUST WATERING AFTER YOU MAKE SURE THE SOIL IS DRY. Is it right. I almost do like that. So I waterinf 2-3 times a week. Because now in Asia is summer and very hot

  • 9 years ago

    Succulents (most of them) grow naturally in high temperatures and in dry, rocky soils.

    I respectfully disagree with what you found on web: many succulents prefer direct sunlight. It may be good idea to avoid sunlight in hottest part of day - usually around noon. How hot it is - what is usual high temperature in your location? They need to be acclimatized to strong sunlight, but they will be growing better. That way, you don't need to carry them inside and outside every day.

    Watering should be done when it is needed = when the soil deep in pot is almost dry. You have done good by checking with toothpick, just use longer stick as I already mentioned in previous post.

    Stephanie Li thanked rina_Ontario,Canada 5a
  • 9 years ago

    Hope all them can recover well. After that I won't so much care about the sunlight. Sometimes I also feel tired to put them in and outside. Maybe this is the main reason make them becane like that

  • 9 years ago

    You might be able to place them so they get full sun in the mornings or in the afternoons but not in the hottest part of the day, middle of the day. I know anyone would be tired of moving plants around every day, so that is understandable.

    Stephanie Li thanked socks
  • 9 years ago

    Poor myself a lot. My wrinkle succulent not much best change. And the second one still falling leaves. Now I just have 5 more leaves on the stem. Will you think I will propagate successful with those fallen leaves

  • 9 years ago
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    Stephanie where is the perlite:)? Why did you not use any perlite when repotting?

  • 9 years ago
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    Ok here it goes;). I will do my spiel again;).

    Your soil looks very damp still. It is very important to put at least 50% perlite into your soil. If it is humid where you live, which I have a feeling it is, you could even do 60% perlite with 40% soil. I live in a very hot and dry climate so I could get away with watering my plants in the summer 2-3 times a week, but I even think that could be too much. Plus, if you are keeping these plants out of direct sunlight there is no way evaporation is happening as fast as it would be if the plants were in direct sun:).

    I personally believe you've repotted your Echeverias in too big of pots for their size. This is another problem because that means more soil which holds on to moisture. With the size pots you've used you could honestly put them in the same pot.

    The one that has lost almost all it's leaves you can use for propagating. At the rate this plant is losing leaves you will have a bunch of new leaves to propagate:). When propagating the leaves just set on top of soil out of direct sun. NO WATER until you start seeing roots coming out of the leaves. Keep in a dry shady spot:).

    The Echeveria that looks healthier must get better soil if you want it to live:). I have stated what is required for fast draining soil:). The healthy Echeveria needs more sun. It's real flat and light in color which is a sign of needing more light. I would find a spot in your yard or balcony that only gets sun from sunrise to 12pm. Once lunchtime comes around the Echeveria should move into a shady spot:). The healthier looking Echeveria once it has at least 50% perlite in it you can water once a week. No more then that. I understand it is hot where you live, but your Echeveria will be fine. You got to look at it this way. What you've been doing has not been working:). So it's not gonna make things worse to try something new:).Goodluck:).

    Stephanie Li thanked Kara 9b SF Bay Area CA
  • 9 years ago

    I already put the perlite yet.

    With the soil actually is not wet. Beacause near where I live I can't find the soil that special use for catus. So I use the normal soil which colour is black (not what you think is damp)

    The pot not very big size just because lot of my leaves are fallen

    I have already collect bunch of leaves to propagate. But I not sure it OK or not. This is my first time do that

    The sunlight problem now I put them all day in the garden eventhought is very sunniest. I hope is will be better. Generally I very apppreciate your help

  • 9 years ago

    I just found that little spot to instead the once which you said is big. But this one has not the spot let is drain. You think in that period it need water or not to let me find another pot. Tks

    When I repot it. It continue fall 1 leave

  • 9 years ago

    It appears to me that your succulent is rotting, slowly. I lost an echeveria today from the same thing. I picked up the pot and the bottom row of leaves fell off, I touched the next row and they all fell off, finally the top fell off and I could then see the stem had blackened and was rotted. I believe the damage to mine started at the store where I bought it, they overwatered it and even though I repotted in a gritty mix, it was too late.

    I started with succulents last year and had a terrible time, I was losing lots of plants but I kept adding grit to my soil and it looks like I'm planting in pure coarse rock but there is a little soil in there. Look at my pot on the right, the rocks I'm using is correct

    It appears to me that your rocks are too large and they are just lying on top of the soil. You must get smaller rocks like grit and mix well with the soil, I add about 1/2 rock and 1/2 soil, mix very well. After you repot, do not water for a few days so they can adjust.

    Also on a new plant with small roots when I do water it is by squeeze bottle with nozzle pointed at the roots because I don't want to flood the pot with water, there are not enough roots to use the water up.

    My pots are on the east side of the house, they get the morning sun up until about 2 in the afternoon.

    good luck with your plants, even if you lose this one, try again . You seem to have a love of plants and you will get better results the longer you have them


    Stephanie Li thanked letsgobird7b
  • 9 years ago

    Let tommorrow I go to buy whick rock smaller that. I also think the overwaterred make by the shop because the thick leave succulent I not watering so much. Just 1 time a week