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Recessed light as pull box.

9 years ago

I need to re-route a section of EMT carrying two circuits. Does code allow one to use a recessed (can) light as a pull/junction box for this purpose?

Said another way, An existing 3-way can light has conduit going to it that only contains the senders and neutral. Can I run a new section of conduit continuing on from that can light such that it meets a downstream box and add the hots as well or must the box be externally exposed with a blank or external fixture?

I know I can do this if the fixture were externally mounted but I've never seen anyone do this through a recessed light and don't know if it's allowed.

The existing downstream path is being removed due to remodeling.

This is commercial so we're talking about 2 hot/1 neutral conductors plus the senders for the 3-way can light.

Comments (11)

  • 9 years ago

    This is commercial work? Then just ask your electrician. Amateurs aren't allowed to work on commercial buildings.

  • 9 years ago

    It's residential but in Chicago everything uses commercial standards, i.e. no one even sells Romex here. Everything is EMC/conductors.

  • 9 years ago

    I know what I'm proposing will work. What I'm asking is whether or not it's allowed.

  • 9 years ago

    I don't think homeowners are allowed to do electrical work on their homes in Chicago. So my comment probably still applies.

    But as far as 'hypothetically speaking'? Check the box fill. I imagine the boxes on recessed lights are typically small. There are online box fill calculators that you can use. Just because you can physically stuff all of those wires into a box, it doesn't mean that you're allowed to.

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    This is a 6" can with a pretty large box. It's bigger than the double-gang boxes used throughout homes so there is plenty of room. You just can't access the box without removing the can but I guess that's no different than removing an externally mounted fixture.

  • 9 years ago

    If you can remove the can to get to the can's box, is there sufficient room to just put another box in the same vicinity accessed after removing the lighting trim? This should meet the accessibility requirement.


  • 9 years ago

    The can itself has a hard box as big as a double. Putting in another box unattached would definitely be considered a buried box. Plus, this is all conduit. I would have to run separate conduit both to and from.

  • 9 years ago

    If you can only access the box by removing the can, how do you plan on running emt from it?

  • 9 years ago

    New work cans the junction box usually remains with the fixed part and you just have the can dangling by the fixture wires. Old work cans have the box attached to the fixture itself so everything comes out the hole (obviously won't work with non-flexible wiring).


  • 9 years ago

    You are correct and this is old work. I was able to find an IBEW electrician and he indicated if it's an old work can with a hard box and cover attached then, yes, you can use that like any other light fixture to run additional conductors through.