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Range oven vs speed vs steam vs convection microwave?

8 years ago

I have read through various threads and still can not decide. We are building a new house and have options and have this dream that I will cook more because I will have a real sized kitchen but don't really know because we often don't make the time to cook anything fancy. Then again I also probably won't have money to eat out anymore (LOL). I currently use a microwave at least once a day to reheat coffee, microwave friendly food from trader joes or maybe defrost something. I use the toaster oven 1-4 times a week (toast, nuggets, reheat pizza... way faster than oven). I use the oven maybe once or twice a week but sometimes use the crockpot instead of oven. I have never used a steam oven but everyone seems to love them. If money not an object I would get the range oven and speed and steam but this seems excessive anyway given I am not a chef. So if I decided to get a speed and steam could I do without a regular oven and just get a cooktop (and of course also eliminate microwave and toaster oven)? Which two would you pick among oven, speed and steam if you can only choose two of the three? Why? Thank you.

Comments (19)

  • 8 years ago

    You need a regular oven.

    I love my combi-steam oven. This appliance HAS resulted in more fish and more vegetables being cooked. It is easy-peasy to use and produces amazing results. Watch some YouTubes from Miele and Gaggenau to get a feel for what is possible.

    Reheating food in the CSO is far superior to the microwave. The food does not taste reheated at all.


    Theresa Mueller thanked Rita / Bring Back Sophie 4 Real
  • 8 years ago
    Pizza and coffee?
  • 8 years ago

    I spent 18 months with only a GE Advantium 240 and no real oven. It sucks. You need a real oven. The Advantium has its uses, but it's not a real oven. Happy now that I have by dual wall ovens PLUS the Advantium and the warming drawer.

  • 8 years ago

    If I had to choose two I would go with my convection oven and combi steam. I would stash a small micro in a cabinet or pantry or build in a counter top with a trim kit. I rarely use a microwave with my combi steam. Reheat pizza in your combi steam - heat a stone and put you slices on the stone and maybe give it a burst of steam to rejuvenate the topping. Far superior to a micro. I don’t drink coffe so can’t comment there I have 3 ovens - convection/combi steam/speed. Use the combi steam and speed the most. Use the speed more as a conventional oven than a micro or a speed.

    Theresa Mueller thanked Kim G
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Our new kitchen has the smaller Miele wall oven plus the Miele combo-steam. We have a cheap microwave in the pantry, we don’t use it often. We’ve just been using the kitchen for a couple of months but I’m pretty pleased with the choice. Our last kitchen had Miele regular wall oven + Speed oven. Happier with our current choice.

    Theresa Mueller thanked sochi
  • 8 years ago
    As a designer I’ve had a couple of customers who adamantly love their GE Advantium microwave ovens. Their new kitchens WOULD have them! The reviews are really good, also.
    Theresa Mueller thanked mainenell
  • 8 years ago

    I see the following different options:

    1. 1. range with built-in oven, plus CSO wall-oven, and speed wall-oven.
    2. 2. range-top (*), CSO wall-oven, and speed wall-oven.
    3. 3. range with built-in oven, plus CSO wall-oven, and microwave in the pantry.
    4. 3a. range with built-in oven, plus CSO wall-oven; no microwave.
    5. 4. range-top, CSO wall-oven, and small microwave in the pantry.

    Without doubt, option #1 is obviously going to address all your cooking needs. It's most expensive and takes up the most space.

    Option #2 is cheaper and uses less space. It still has most of the advantages. But it means you won't have a full-size oven. It depends on your cooking style. I personally would miss the ability to bake a full-size cookie sheet all in one go. Also Thanksgiving gets interesting; you can prepare a turkey in a CSO, but you might have to spatchcock it. All of that might be a non-issue for you. On the plus side, having a Speedoven is nice. It's not critical. But it's a fun tool to speed up cooking of some select dishes. And in general, having at least two oven cavities is awesome; and you don't often need them to be big if you have more than one.

    Option #3 is great for most people, iff you feel you don't really need a microwave most of the time. We have little kids and expect that we'll need our microwave for a good while longer. But if it was an "adult-only" household, I might decide otherwise. There are few things that couldn't be done with the other appliances just as well. So, having to trek to the pantry and use the small microwave once or twice a month is probably OK. This leads to option #3a. Maybe, you'll find you won't even need a microwave at all.

    Option #4 is the most extreme option. It means you won't have the benefit of two oven cavities. That's a noticeable limitation. On the other hand, you gain a lot of space, you save money, and with some forethought, you can still cook very efficiently.

    In other words, we'd have to know a lot more about your budget, your available space, and your cooking style in order to give you the perfect answer. Sounds as if you don't know all of this information yourself, though. But you probably can't go wrong with either of these options (you might have noticed that they all include a CSO; go figure).


    *) if you are looking into getting gas, do not get a cooktop. Look for a range top instead. You'll like it much better. On the other hand, if you plan on getting induction, then there are not that many choices of range tops; a cook top might be a better option.

    Theresa Mueller thanked M
  • 8 years ago

    I would (and did) choose the regular oven and the combi steam when I redid the kitchen 2 years ago. There are times that you want a full size oven, but the combi is my go to. I have a microwave in the basement because I wasn't sure I could live without one, but just this weekend I was baking in the combi when DH decided he wanted lunch. He decided that he'd rather wait for me to finish baking than have "nuked" leftovers. This is a man that likes pretty much anything, so waiting on the combi says a lot. I can count on my fingers how many times I've used the mw in the last 2 years, and nixing it for the steam was one of the best decisions that I made.

    Re-heated coffee? No thank you. Buy a thermos to keep it warm or a machine that makes one cup at a time.


    Theresa Mueller thanked sherri1058
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    8 years ago

    IMO you go to good appliance store and talk to a person that can give you all the pros and cons of the different choices .

  • 8 years ago

    I have and use all 3.

    You really need a full size oven. A CSO is super useful and really great to have if you can swing it space and $$$ wise. It seems essentially everyone that has one loves it. You probably need a microwave too although certainly some people get by without it. It's definitely less important with a CSO in the kitchen, but its still necessary imo.


    Theresa Mueller thanked DrB477
  • 8 years ago
    This is my kitchen plan. I had planned on range with built in oven and a speed oven to replace mw and toaster oven. But then went to steam oven demo and read how everyone loves them that I then realized I needed to reconsider.
  • 8 years ago

    Where is your fridge/freezer? That looks like a frequent awkward trek around the big island. I would try to rearrange the kitchen so that you can mostly stay on one side of the island for typical activities.


    Maybe look for some undercounter appliances for things like the fridge?

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    I'm curious... several people say "you really need a full size oven" but they don't say WHY. Is it the space? I am looking seriously at a 36"in cooktop and the Samsung 30 in Steam and convection w flex duo, with a micro (for my husband to reheat HIS coffee!). I bake cookies maybe 3 times a year; mostly what I use my oven for is roasting meats and veg. This model has a 5.1 cu ft cavity, which seems pretty big to me. Am I being foolish? Is this a pipe dream? I also have a small counter top size convection/toaster oven that I use pretty often because it heats up so fast. I guess I could keep that and use it as a secondary oven? HELP!!

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    I love the huge oven cavity that my Bluestar 30" has ... and I honestly have a need for that large cavity once every few years. It's one of those "when you need it, you really need" it things. But that need doesn't happen all that often.

    In our current remodel, we are getting a Miele CSO and a Miele Speedoven; those are only 24" wide. I expect that, like everybody else in this forum, I'll use them much more frequently than the big oven.

    If you never cook for really large groups of people, I could definitely see you be OK with smaller ovens. And from what I can tell, it's not as if a 30" wall oven was small.

    I do have to caution you though that it doesn't look as if the Samsung oven is an actual combination-steam-oven. Instead, it looks to me as if it is a regular oven that has a steam injection feature. That's a lot more limiting. Please read up on the difference before making a decision.

    Also, while I don't know anything else about this particular model, this forum is generally somewhat negative on Samsung appliances. They don't really have a great reputation for reliability right now. I wouldn't know whether that applies to their ovens, though, or if it is just their refrigerators that everybody seems to hate on.

  • 7 years ago

    Thank you!! I will do more research on Samsung in general.

  • 7 years ago

    It really depends on what you plan to do and that's tough to predict for you right now. Appliances are tools and like any tool there are the right tools for each job. But there are also the right tools for the right job that are also good enough for other jobs. I'd not want to be without the fastbake capability or our GE Advantium and would easily choose it over a combo-steam (CSO) if I had to. Others would choose the opposite. We really like having both a gas and an electric oven since they cook differently, others don't care about that.


    FWIW, we cook and bake a fair amount. In our new house we are mostly replicating our current kitchen that works very well. The only changes are the addition of a CSO and a 48" range w/ 24" griddle instead of our current 36" range w/ 12" griddle. So, we'll have:


    - 48" BS RNB gas Range w/ 4 burners + 24" griddle + 2 gas ovens.

    - Miele Masterchef electric wall oven.

    - GE Advantium MW/Fastbake

    - Miele CSO

    - Miele warming drawer



  • 7 years ago

    The CSO's that people here are referring to are closer to 2 cu. ft. not 5. They won't hold your 20 pound turkey (at least mine doesn't).

  • 7 years ago

    We got one of these Oster ovens for the office to replace our toaster oven. We broke the new oven in by having a bacon wrap party. It was turned on to 350 at 7:30 was not turned off until about 2:30 as we all cooked our bacon projects. It seems to work fine. I considered getting two of them for home, but came up with another solution that fit our house better.

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