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Another Sad Painting Disaster.Hope someone can explain what went wrong

8 years ago

During one of our usual spur-of- the-moment decisions to update a room in our home, approximately 15 years ago, my husband and I decided to replace the original contractor-grade vanity cabinet in our hall bathroom. So, like many DIY couples back then, we headed to Builder's Surplus, a large cash-&-carry warehouse specializing in kitchen cabinets, bathroom vanities & countertops . . .and a mecca for DIY-ers like us. To our surprise it only took us a few minutes to find almost exactly what we were looking for. An unfinished cabinet with a lovely, yet delicate grain — the perfect size to fit under our existing cultured marble countertop. I loved that grain so much that I convinced my husband to skip painting or staining the cabinet, and instead hired a professional painter to just apply an eggshell finish.


Fast forward to April 2018 — when I had that urge to update the same bathroom again. Everything was falling into place perfectly when, during another spur of the moment occasion it occurred to me that what was missing in the room was a light green wash on the cabinet to bring all the other colors together.


Just to be sure I didn't mess up, I spent several days looking up different products and ways to apply the paints well as details regarding whether or not to remove the eggshell finish. I've lost track of how many strangers I turned to for input, but they ranged from paint department salesmen, to owners of online blogs and the customer service of the company that made the paint.


Armed with painting supplies from the Dollar Store and Home Depot . ..a paint stirrer from Lower and what looked like a plywood photo frame from Michael's (perfect for checking the color of the paint), I returned home to prep the cabinet for cosmetic surgery.


Since I had been unable to obtain a definitive answer about the need to sand the surface first, I went ahead and did it — happy to find remnants of what looked like eggshell finish on the freshly sanded side of the cabinet. My color samples were perfect, as well. Unfortunately, my good luck didn't extend to the color wash. The grain definitely showed, but the rest of the wash wiped completely off the wood was I wiped it down.


Since I had completed every other step as directed, I don't understand what went wrong. The only possibility I can think of (but which is hard to believe) is that the lovely grain might just be man-made on a slick, faux wood veneer.


Does anyone think it's possible? . . . If so, I would welcome any and all suggestions on what to do next.


I would almost be ready to buy a prefab cabinet and counter top,

but due to the design of the current cabinet and backsplash, replacing it it also would require re-papering the entire bathroom.

Comments (20)

  • 8 years ago

    Do you have pictures? Also was the finish you originally put on it an oil based finished and now you're trying to use latex water based products?

  • 8 years ago

    A picture is worth your thousand words.

  • 8 years ago
    Need more info. Was the eggshell finish oil pro latex? What color is it? Is it perfectly smooth? What product are you now trying to put on top; is it a water base glaze?
  • 8 years ago
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    sounds like the previous finish was oil based, or man made type of laminate and you didn't prime properly.

    just curious as to why you go through all the trouble to explain but don't post a picture? You want an answer why it's not adhering, but we have no idea what you even painted.

    help us out here.

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    Sounds like you should just get a coat of primer on it........and paint it a solid color, and not try to make washed ANYTHING. Buy towels to tie a scheme together. Hang a piece of art with the colors you want.

  • 8 years ago
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    Believe it or not, some people dont have phones that take pictures and/or can send data - shocking but true.

    Basically if the professional finisher did a good job with the clear finish and since it was unfinished wood (per your first post) then the poly would have absorbed deep into the pores of the wood which would make penetration and adherence of a stain difficult or impossible.... esp. if it was a lighter, penetrating stain meant to absorb into the wood. What product did you use - often the instructions will say new unfinished or never finished wood only. Your only hope is to find some sort of heavy bodied, semi-opaque gel type stain that is meant to sit on the surface more vs. absorb in. Not sure whats out there that comes in colors - you might have to get a white and have it tinted.

    You might post in the woodworking forum or visit a Woodcrafters if you have one near you - have a good array of General finishes products and the guys usually know what they are talking about.

    Thats assuming it was bare, unfinished real wood to begin with. Ive not ever seen "fake wood" that looked like raw unfinished wood but who knows.

  • 8 years ago

    Even without a phone to take pictures, if you have a digital camera you can put the photos on a computer and post them on Houzz from your computer.

  • 8 years ago

    LOL yeah thats good in theory - I dont have any sort of photo-taking device myself but I freely admit I may be something of a freak.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Current resident,,,they have a computer or a phone to post their dilemma on Houzz . and if they do it via their phone, then they have a camera that will take photos. if done on a home computer, i'm sure they have a digital camera. (or for heavens sake, they could borrow one from a friend, a neighbor, their kid!) and if they don't have any of those, then writing online for help, for something we can't see, and trying to get advice, is ridiculous. It's like calling the car mechanic on the phone and saying, "my car is making a funny noise but I can't bring it to you. please tell me how to fix it".

    Nobody knows what this cabinet looks like or what it's made of, because we can't see it!

    Excnuck, if the cab has a clear coat, it's prob oil based. you can't paint over it. sand or strip off the current finish and try again. I'm guessing it's clear coat based on the wood grain statement. but it could also be an eggshell paint finish. I don't know. this is why we need pictures.

  • 8 years ago
    excanuk, we want to help you; give us the info so we can help you!
  • 8 years ago
    I think I am confused by the use of “ eggshell “ finish. Am I to understand that this cabinet was actually given a clear coat in a satin finish? When you use the term “ eggshell that would mean a solid paint finish in oil or latex! This may be why we are confused and not following your painting steps! If indeed this was sealed with a clear coat poly please let us know!
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Why does it bother you Soph? I'm not expressing anything besides theres a thousand and one other things I prefer to spend my money on.

    Generally, Ive found that simple technical questions don't usually require a photo. It would be helpful though to know exactly what product was first applied and what product(s) she is now trying to use . Can this b e deciphered by looking at a photo? Maybe, maybe not. Sure, post a photo but this woodworker/refinisher would still want to know the specifics re products that were used.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    CR,,,not in this case. she's asking why it won't adhere. we need to see what she is working on. explaining it isn't good enough. Having all of us guess, throwing out suggestions, try this, try that,,,is a waste of everyone's time.

  • 8 years ago
    Since non of the actual paint/ stains products were listed it is just impossible for any of us to make any further comments here until we get feedback from the OP! Grasping at straws!!!! A personal preference to join in modern technology is just that; personal!
  • 8 years ago
    Then again a pic sure helps;)!
  • 8 years ago

    If I were the OP, excanuck, the chances of my returning to this nutso thread would be zero.

  • 8 years ago
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    we don't know what she's doing or what's she's working on. we need a pic if she wants actual advice that will work. period. however, doesn't look like that's going to happen,,,so,,,,Strip, prime and paint. or strip, stain and clear coat,,,or sand, prime and paint. (yes, even for a 'wash') those are the options based on the info given.

    I'll also point out that you calling someone condescending and grouchy w/their replies, is pretty much the pot calling the kettle black.

  • PRO
    8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    OP, don’t do a “wash”. Betting “wood” isn’t wood?. Choose your color and paint the vanity. My daughter painted 80’s cabs in her condo. Properly prepped, they lasted her 10 years.

  • 8 years ago
    Yup! Just sand it, prime it with an oil base primer and paint it . Done!
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