We had a 60 inch round table in a similar 10 ft x 10 ft breakfast nook (previous home). It was killer! Comfortably fit 6 chairs, easy to squeeze 2 more chairs when needed. It is not too big for your space.

Hi Simon! Do you have a large family? If so, I can understand your position, but if not, you already have a separate formal dining room, so not sure why you need such large breakfast seating. Your call, of course, but seems redundant to me.

I would go with the 72. Benches can be tough on people as they normally do not have a back.I was just at a party last night with bar height table and no back stools - it was not very comfortable.

We have a 36" wide and it works quite well. It's a good size for everyday use. Larger parties are in the dining room.

About 54. It's a very old table which has an attached leaf. I don't know if it is a standard size anymore. We fit four very comfortably for daily use.

We also have a 36" wide dining table and it fits a nice size party around it (102" long...with extra 2x12" leaves if needed). Sure, I can't have a huge center piece if the table is set for dinner, but we don't use it daily so the width isn't a problem at all. There is still plenty of space for place mats etc .

With the door swing, a rectangular table can't be centered on the windows with the long side parallel. That also means that the light fixture(s) over the table will be off from all of the other fixtures. Is that something you'll like? If so, delete the chair by the exterior door. Worst seat in the house! ;)

Mrs. Pete was on target with her estimation of a smaller round table. That way it centers on the window, with any light fixture also centered, and allows plenty of room for traffic. Large gatherings should be accommodated in the dining room or outdoors.

A wrench :-) My first inclination due to the door swing was to eliminate the door as an issue... by putting no one at the ends. Three across from three. This gives you the longest table choice and fills the space. Depending on where the legs/supports of the table are, and the width of the chairs, you could do this with a 7'/84"

Move the door to the outside. It impacts centering anything, and it’s in the worst possible spot for traffic.

So today I had access to the house to give me a visual. This picture is a
table that 72x38. Roughly 6x3 and it works well with plenty of room and
still seats 6-7 people with the bench on one side.

Until a person is sitting at the end of the table and someone wants to go out the only door to the backyard.

Could you go with a slider in this spot, which wouldn't require an inswing?

If you're in an area that gets snow, building code says the door has to swing in. It lets you get out in an emergency if there's snow up against the door and you need to exit in a hurry. If the door opened out, the snow would block it from opening.

Unless there is a code where you live prohibiting.. yes You can (making sure you have clearances etc). Builder might not (assuming this is not custom). I would close on the house and then hire someone that will. In the US you can even buy nice pre hung exterior doors, front of the house worthy, that swing OUT. One such one can be found at the big orange store. THIS is a nice white one.

I didn’t say make it swing out. I said move it. The adjacent living room perhaps? Somewhere else, for sure. Swapping a window for a door isn’t very difficult. Would need a floor plan to see where it could go.

The connection to the exterior is pretty poor in this plan. Why isn't the window in the family room a French door or slider? And just get rid of that door in the breakfast area for a window. You'd get a much better connection to the porch and yard.

I think that you're not seeing this in the same way I am. If the door swing remains as is, you lose that amount of space for seating. Did you open the door and check the lack of clearance with your mock-up? I assume that you want to use that exit, so the 30+ inches the door takes up when opened need to remain free of furniture. The table needs to be off center in order to include a chair at the end that won't get hit by the door, the table needs to be small, or no one sits at that end.

Of course, changing the door swing will help. But, as noted, that's not a good idea if snow piles up against it. You want egress in case of an emergency. When our house flooded last year, we had to climb out a window because of the pressure against the doors. Thankfully, we have a huge one (and they were above the water line) so we all fit through easily.

Exactly. Your previous reply to me about clearances wasn't taking into account the door opening into the room with a 6 ft table there. That door swing needs to be deleted from the measurements for seating. The whole left side of the room is for traffic. That scenario doesn't allow the table to be centered, which affects where the light will go (not centered in the ceiling above), which affects the sight lines you'll have of the fixtures.

Yes, as Mrs. Pete noted. You may not be bothered by it, but not having the light fixture centered over the table and in the raised area of the ceiling is something that would really bug me. You actually have a small area for seating when you take into account the architecture.

Edit: this is coming from someone who isn't married to symmetry. I can have a sink off-center from a window, I don't use matching side tables, etc. I do strive for balance.

No chair on the door end. It can't be used unless you're all confined to quarters.

Try to find a table that uses something close to a pedestal base. It will allow you to squeeze in more people on the long sides when you need to. Legs will get in the way of that. For everyday, you can seat 5 comfortably and 6 if no one wants to go outside. I know that you want to have 3 people on a bench. I'm not sure who these people are, maybe they really like each other and will want to sit nice and close. My kids would be grousing about "you're touching me!". Adults will likely look for another seat ;) Just remember that a centered light fixture will not be centered over the table.

I was trying to view the plan...do you have sliders going from your family room to the deck? If so, I'd swap the breakfast area door for a window - you really don't need a door there. That way you can get the table you want, center it, and have the light centered in the area.

I wish I could give you a lead. I've been looking for a new dining table for months.

Don't forget the spacing for the humans.

The door is the nemesis in getting symmetry with back window. If keeping door, then assymettry.

A rectangle table longer length coming towards kitchen, possibly a square or round, but it needs to be lined up towards the right of the room.

or an L bench with storage underneath.

IMO your space layout and dimension is begging for a round table. You can position chairs around a round to avoid chair in front of your door.

Critical to position table centered w/your window and to have your center light repositioned center to window bank as well.

You have room for 54-60 " round. You could check out some of the square to round options available as well-- sq for the 4 of you and expand to large 60" round for 8 as needed.

Not sure where you live, but here is a great table I have seen that would work well in your space- great quality and finish as well and tons of finish options:

http://www.lorts.com/html/1173-5217.html

I will use a 54'' table round or boat shape to cut the angles, it will also give a softer look the room and move around the table freely. 6 chairs will fit perfectly. If you need more space select a table w an extra leaf of 18'' that you could use for the holidays or when needed. Et voila!

you aren't thinking about the normal use of the room. its best to get a table to comfortably seat your family to make the room feel the most spacious with leaves added for guests. check sites for dimension advice. you need to look at it not as a large table will fit but as when everyone is seated can you still walk around it comfortably. you don't want people to have to squish themselves into a chair and have to get up to let someone else in. you can really only look at the space available when the door is fully open as your useable space. i copied this from a different site.

Table-to-Wall Clearance

When deciding on your table dimensions and size, it’s important to measure table-to-wall space. You’ll want to leave enough space for diners to get in and out of their seats easily. The rule of thumb is to leave 42-48 inches between the table and walls. If you have a buffet or hutch (I'm inserting door swing here) in the dining room, the same rule applies but instead of measuring from the wall you’ll want to measure from the front edge of the buffet to the dining room table.