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Help... I hate my hardware...

7 years ago

What are you thoughts... mistake going with black? How can i change it?



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  • 7 years ago

    I think it looks good. It’s attractive hardware and ties in with your other details.

    Josie Dawe thanked traci_from_seattle
  • 7 years ago

    I like the hardware a lot.

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    I think black hardware on white cabinets looks great--the contrast adds interest.

  • 7 years ago

    I like it, but to answer your question on how to change it ...


    If this style is offered in different finishes, order the same sizes you have now and swap them out. It is pretty easy to do.


    If this style is NOT offered in the same finishes, figure out what the center to center dimensions are for the holes. Order some samples of alternatives to try, Jeffrey Alexander makes nice hardware and offers 3 free samples per address (you pay $5 to cover shipping and they arrive with $5 coupon for your order).


    But again ... I like them a lot, you might grow to like them in a couple weeks.

  • 7 years ago

    like other said I would wait until you have lived with it a bit. Can I ask why do you have the pan under the washer? The only place I've ever seen this done is in Florida. I can tell you that MN and PA don't do it lol.

  • 7 years ago

    The pan is there in case there is a leak, I have one under my hot water heater. Mine will drain to the sump crock. And just because you don't do it, doesn't mean it isn't done.

  • 7 years ago
    <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><md>Just wanted to tell you that you are not alone
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    Suedonim75, in Melissa R's defense, she was just asking. I had the same question when I saw the photo. No need for that final sentence you wrote.

    Pam A's response summed up what I was going to say too.

  • 7 years ago

    I like it alot - as a matter of fact, that's exactly what I did ;-)


    But like others have said, live with them for a little while, if you haven't all ready. If you don't like them, look for others that have the same on-center measurements (pretty standard) and you should be able to make an easy switch since they are all ready drilled.

  • 7 years ago

    The unfinished panel showing under the desk area would bother me far more that the hardware, which is such a personal choice anyway. I think the black looks great. However, a knob on the uppers might have looked less intrusive than pulls, but again that is a very personal decision. Live with it a while before doing anything.

  • 7 years ago

    Will try this again. I have pans under the washers and hot water heaters in our homes in FL and PA plus in all of our rental properties. Just wanted you to know that you are not alone!

  • 7 years ago

    It looks good IMO

    Josie Dawe thanked User
  • 7 years ago
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    Guess I must be lucky in 65 years never have had a washing machine or hot water tank leak. Josie your kitchen is lovely, hardware and all!

  • 7 years ago
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    I think it looks good, too. The hardware ties in nicely with the dark appliances. Makes it look more "balanced" to me.

  • 7 years ago

    I like them alot. But easy to change out to a different pull with same screw holes.

  • 7 years ago

    I don’t understand why you hate it, it looks perfect.

  • 7 years ago
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    but I see tile floor so even if there is a leak it wouldn't cause damage plus the pan isn't going to stop a big leak anyway...right?

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    I think your hardware looks great. The hardware with other black accents in the kitchen will be a great finish.



  • 7 years ago

    It is code for a laundry room on the second floor to have the tray.

  • 7 years ago

    I have always put a pan under my washing machine ever since I discovered grease leaks out of a machine 20 years ago. I have also had minor leaks since then the pans have all captured.

  • 7 years ago

    What do you hate about? I think it looks beautiful with the white cabinets! The contrast is really nice.

  • 7 years ago

    LOVE the Combo! Then again, those are our colors upstairs!

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    I think the room is lovely and your cabinets beautiful, but the black does make the room far more "cold". Either replace the hardware with a warmer, polished metal or add art and an oriental rug in the room.

  • 7 years ago

    but I see tile floor so even if there is a leak it wouldn't cause damage plus the pan isn't going to stop a big leak anyway...right?


    Melissa, Josie explained that the pan drains to the sump.

  • 7 years ago

    Josie, I briefly considered using black pulls on some whitish cabinets that I built in the basement. Decided that I did not like the high contrast and opted for stainless pulls instead. I'm quite satisfied with the stainless on white look.


    IMO, the black on white look is love it or hate it. And I don't think you need to wait to see if you grow into it. I knew right off the bat that I didn't like the look and changed course immediately. The cabinets have been finished for over a year and I'm still glad that I did not opt for the black hdwe.


    For context, I have never been a fan of the oil rubbed bronze look, either. Easy enough to change. As others have said, just replace with the same style in another metal finish.







  • 7 years ago

    If you're going to throw the hardware out, you have nothing to lose by trying to paint it.

    I've painted tons of hardware over the years. Light sanding, followed by a light touch with a can of spray paint. Do a few light coats. Always turns out fabulous for me. I love metallic spray paint!

  • 7 years ago

    I'm thinking the OP would paint them as the 1st option. Holes are already in the millwork.....and it would be a luck of chance to find different hardware that may/may not match up to the exisiting holes. Or get creative with filling the holes in and then patching, but that's a whole different project in itself.

  • 7 years ago

    They look great. But. If you don't like them, what about the same ones but the same color as those on the refrigerator?

  • 7 years ago

    I also think they look great! clean and sleek. goes nicely with your cabinets.

  • 7 years ago

    So what do you think, Josie? Feel any better? The hardware's such a nice look with the dark appliances. Brushed nickel hardware would work due to some stainless on the appliances, but what you have is more complimentary IMO.

  • PRO
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    IMHO black hardware on white cabinets, while commonly done, is hard to pull off, due to the high contrast, it draws your eye to the hardware, and the hardware is the "star."

    It compliments the black w/d.

    I think hardware can be the "jewelry of the kitchen," and am glad that I splurged to get my favorite choice.

    https://www.mariakillam.com/what-colour-pullsknobs-should-you-choose-for-your-white-cabinets/

  • 7 years ago

    You used "hate" so I don't think time will change your mind. Contact the seller and see if they do an exchange for a different finish. Or spend a little $$ and order samples. I would leave the laundry room as is, but the kitchen has too many high contrast vertical lines going on. A softer finish could improve it.

  • 7 years ago

    "I would only recommend black if you have black countertops."


    I completely understand Maria Killam's point with that statement. However, I think black appliances can come into play, too.

  • 7 years ago

    Its not hard to find pulls with the existing hole spread. They are pretty standard. Its not the length of the pull its the spread.

  • 7 years ago
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    SuzyZ

    Re: the hardware. OP seems to have maybe 2 different lengths of hardware going on. Regardless, I was under the impression hardware varies literally ( based on handle design) and finding ons that matched the exact spread would be pretty non-standard ?


    I get single knobs are easy to swap. But handles/pulls....I was always the impression there was no -industry standard- and the holes spread is whatever the design of the handle just happened to be...


  • 7 years ago

    Melissa R

    "but I see tile floor so even if there is a leak it wouldn't cause damage plus the pan isn't going to stop a big leak anyway...right?"


    https://www.ahs.com/home-matters/repair-maintenance/what-is-a-washing-machine-drain-pan-and-why-do-you-need-one/

  • 7 years ago

    I don't have a horse in this race, but I've never had a drain pan under our washers nor would have considered it's effectiveness..... Boilers. yes. I chalk it up as such - there is a much of a chance of a hose blowing on a washer, as it is on the kitchen sinks, the other sinks, the fridge lines. I'm not to going to ~turn off the shut off valves on each one~ every time I leave the house.

  • 7 years ago

    Well I read the link and its not clear how a dryer could leak. Secondly, my washer and dryer are on a pedestal so not sure how that works. And not sure how a washer can leak when its not running. I have heard some people say they would never leave their homes when the washer was running. If I adhered to that notion I would have mounds of unwashed clothes and linens at all times.

  • 7 years ago

    So a 4" center to center pull is 4" between the screw holes. Depending on the pull, the length overall could be 5" or 6" like on modern pulls. This one is 4" center to center but the overall length is 5.25". If you are replacing pulls, you measure the distance between the screw holes and search for replacements that are that length. They are mostly easy to find.



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    I see what you're saying Suzy but I guess we're saying the same/similar thing . Just short of painting the existing hardware, OP is still limited to whatever the c-to-c is on the holes that physically exist in her millwork and is limited as such to whatever alternate hardware/design may fit her schema. Not just color but the design of the pull


    Heh, hardware is very crucial as once that hole is made in the millwork, you're sorting past that point of a very hard change.

  • 7 years ago

    I love it. It’s so clean and simple, yet very classy. Perfection in my eyes.

  • 7 years ago

    . And not sure how a washer can leak when its not running.


    Hose connections can leak; the hose itself can fail. The solenoid (water inlet valve) can fail. All reasons to turn the water off to the machine after use. Or at least before leaving on vacation.


    its not clear how a dryer could leak.


    Steam dryers are connected to a water supply.

  • 7 years ago

    the same hoses can be said from the shut off to the kitchen sink, bathroom sink, the fridge, and the list goes on. Is it best practice to turn off the shut off valves to those after every use.


    Not trying to be snarky, but this is where I can't grasp how it's the norm that washing machines need a drip pan.

  • 7 years ago

    I think it looks great! I’m doing the same in my kitchen. Like others have said, it might be worth stepping back and letting it grow on you a little before you jump to change it. My initial instinct with anything new is to look at it very critically- I guess it’s just my nature. Sometimes it’s takes a little time to warm up to something new and I remember why I chose it in the first place. But it’s totally changeable if you still decide you don’t like them.

  • 7 years ago

    @mdln I agree with Maria Killam 95% of the time, but this is one time that I completely disagree with her. I have seen way too many beautiful white/marble kitchens with dark hardware. In fact I’m doing it in mine. Here’s hoping I don’t come running back here crying LOL. Oh well, if I do, nothing money can’t fix haha

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