Open concept Kitchen Dining Area

Tomer Melman

6 years ago

Hoping to get some thoughts from all of your creative people out there :).

We open the wall between the kitchen to the formal dining area to create one space.

Now to the hard part:

We are struggling with the kitchen design around the area where the old wall was.

Few facts:

1. There is a soffit column on both sides of 10"W X8"D X9' H (in red in the picture)

2. The beam on the ceiling stick out 10" from the ceiling (regular height of the ceiling is 9'10''

See the sketch we have now.

The debate:

We want a large island (120"), but it sticks out of the line where the old wall was (now the opening with the measurement I listed above)

How should we deal with the two soffits?

We want a symmetrical kitchen so the island coming out with nothing on the sides is annoying to the eye, but we not sure what to do from both sides?

Suggestions?

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User

6 years ago

last modified: 6 years ago

This is not a single room. It is two separate rooms. You should have created a cased opening that defined the two rooms better, since your contractor and engineer did not do a flush beam into the attic. Even if they had. defining the rooms is still the way to go. The island cannot hang over into the dining room. It has to remain within the kitchen. As does all of the kitchen cabinets.

You do not appear to have the room to have that wide of an island either. 48” is the aisle space needed for a multi cook kitchen. Unless you’re doing a 10K SubZero fridge, your fridge will stick out 6”-12” from the counters, further reducing the walkway. The cabinets on the other side of the island look to need eliminating so you can have proper clearances for that size island.

Are you working with a Kitchen Designer? Can you post a clearer plan with all measurements?

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emilyam819
6 years ago
I would shorten the island. I never think it looks good when the island extends past the perimeter.
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nessyquinche
6 years ago
I would also shorten the island and reconsider the sink in it. The main sink looks pretty central and easy to get to from all sides.
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felizlady
6 years ago
Shorten the island so it does not extend past the two support columns.
Make sure you have plenty of aisle space so two people can pass easily.
A prep sink with a disposal in the island is nice to have...unless the cost of the plumbing is prohibitive.
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Tomer Melman
Original Author
6 years ago
Thanks for the feedback, the beam couldn’t be flushed since there’s steal beams that support that bath above, (it’s a 1920 structure).

We are actually doing a the Subzero fridge.
The kitchen Space is 15’05” wide by 13’ 11” long
User
6 years ago
last modified: 6 years ago
Keep the kitchen IN the kitchen. Make sure the aisles are 48”. They do look too narrow. Because the island is too wide. With it Only being 15’, you could make one aisle 42”, and one 48” and get a 36” island. Or the pantry cabinets be be shallower. Or both. If you want a 48” island, the cabinets on the other side need to go.
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Tomer Melman
Original Author
6 years ago
I have at least 42.5 on each side of the island of clear space
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User
6 years ago
Post a measured layout please.
Tomer Melman
Original Author
6 years ago
Here is the layout. I did my best to make it as professional as possible. I'm not a PRO like you all :)

What we basically trying to accomplish is to have an island that I can work on (sink working station) , Island with seating for 5 people. Fridge and Stove will be in the bottom of the layout against the wall, starting from the soffit on the bottom.
emilyam819
6 years ago
Can’t read all the numbers. Is the sink wall the 15’ wall or the 13’11” wall,
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Tomer Melman
Original Author
6 years ago
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Lisa Dipiro
6 years ago
Keep the island in the kitchen. Move the prep sink closer to the end so you can have seating. You might want to make that island 24 wide because if you need to get into the pantry or refrigerator while people are there it’s tight
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Patricia Colwell Consulting
6 years ago
Keep the island in the same footprint as the kitchen 42” walkway where nothing opens into it but those need to be at least 48” you really just opened the space between 2 rooms . There is no point to prep sink that is too far from the fridge, there is no space for seating on the sides of the island unless the island is really too narrow to make sense.You need 60” walkways if you have seating. IMO no island .