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Bathroom update help

5 years ago

I am attempting to do a small update on my kids bathroom. So far I have painted the cabinets Hale navy, painted and sealed the grout, recaulked the tub, replaced the drain, and we are installing a new exhaust fan/light today.


I am stuck on what to do with the mirror and countertop. If I remove the big mirror what do I replace it with? Only one side has a sink. I am also considering painting the countertop with a tub refinishing kit in white.



Comments (72)

  • 5 years ago

    One thing to consider with the faucet is splash pattern. Most people put their hands just a couple inches below where the water comes out of the faucet. With a high arc faucet and kids especially, the mirror, backsplash and counter will constantly be wet. Maybe consider a lower faucet. We don't have a high arc faucet in the kids' bathroom and I still wondered every time I went in there how they got water everywhere.

  • 5 years ago

    IMO, with kids that age you have to make things functional but also be thrifty. I would use the handles you have, frame the mirror as in the pic by thinkdesign (maybe above the outlet or go around the top of it). Hooks are better than bars for towels. On door or wall wherever they fit.

  • 5 years ago

    Adding to hollywaterfall, maybe let the kids pick out their own hooks, and they could all be different or different color at least. That way they'll also remember to use it as their own.

  • 5 years ago

    I would keep the mirror if you can. The faucet is fine. I would replace the counter top.

  • 5 years ago

    I've been down this same road. Unfortunately, replacing a countertop costs almost as much as replacing the whole vanity with everything included. I would find towels or rug with the navy and counter color so it looks like it belongs and then just replace the whole thing in 5 years. BTW I think a lot of indoor outdoor rugs can hold up to kids water and have much better designs than they used to. And I like others idea of using natural wood to frame the mirror. The stain should complement the counter also. You just have to cut out at that outlet. Its not perfect, but.... Also, wicker baskets could tie in the countertop color. Good luck. I love Hale Navy.

  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    If you are ready to redo the vanity, this 48” is on sale through Sept 30, includes countertop, backsplash, predrilled holes for 8” widespread faucet, satin nickel drawer hardware, and framed mirror. You can add color by giving the children their own color towel set.




    https://www.lowes.com/pd/Pfister-Masey-Brushed-Nickel-2-handle-Widespread-WaterSense-Bathroom-Sink-Faucet-with-Drain/1000244323


    https://www.lowes.com/pd/Project-Source-Brushed-Nickel-2-handle-Widespread-WaterSense-Bathroom-Sink-Faucet-with-Drain/1000969804

  • 5 years ago

    Okay, we're talking kids here and kids can demolish things quickly and easily without trying. I would remove the counter top, go to the local big box store and get a stock cabinet of drawers and paint them the same color as you did the current cabinet.

    If you can't get a remnant of granite, then look at IKEA for a counter top ($100 or less). DON'T TRY TO PAINT the current one. It'll look okay for a week or two, but that's it.


    Hooks work better than bars and I'd even consider putting a special one down low for the little one to use. That sink faucet you picked looks more like a bar faucet, I'd reconsider. There are faucets that are lower but also arched. What you want to make sure of is that the extension into the sink is 6" or more. Many faucets only reach 4" in and then you get water everywhere.


    I would have a step stool so the little one can reach the sink and I'd make it a trough sink if possible. Under mounts are easier to keep the area clean, but if that isn't possible, I'd at least get a wide sink to contain the splashy mess.


    I would have plastic buckets with their names on them for bath toys to be stored under the sink.


    I dislike those huge mirrors (okay, I also don't want to clean them). I had it taken down when redoing the bathroom. I bought a mirror for $50 from a big box store. Hung it behind the faucet and then had more wall space for shelves, pictures, hand towels, etc. There was only 1 small spot of wall damage (oops, forgot to patch it because it's hiding behind the new mirror). I think the idea of framing the mirror is nice, but it's going to cost at least as much as the new smaller mirror. Your choice.


    Once you put in a new counter, you could even tile a back splash for not much money.


    If you aren't sure about the knobs you have on hand, you can get a package of 10 for about $20 at Walmart or go online to pullsdirect.com part of build.com. I just ordered 60 pulls for my soon-to-be renovated kitchen. They have all price ranges and probably 1000 styles.


    I'm not a fan of rugs in the bathroom except maybe a rubber non-slip one in front of the sink. Someday I will replace the tub/shower in both my bathrooms, but my 14 y.o. is not the most considerate, and so I'm waiting. Instead, I got a nice shower curtain to hide the whole thing for a couple more years.


    Good luck with the rest of your project.


  • 5 years ago

    Comments here are kind of funny. People are telling you to rip out the entire sink, vanity and and mirror, when you are obviously trying to save money.


    The mirror is going to be glued to the wall with big blogs of construction adhesive. If you take it off (you would have to break it to remove it, which is a mess), your wall will have a lot of damage. I have done this job myself, and it is a pain to pry off those blobs of dried up adhesive. You sound like a handy person, and sheetrock is not difficult or expensive to repair, but you might not be up for that. If you pull out the vanity top/sink, the short “backsplash“ sides (looks like it all one piece?) may be glued to the sheetrock as well. You can find an inexpensive replacement for that, but the real answer to all of your questions is more questions: how much can you afford to spend, and how much are you willing to rip out and replace? If you go into this job in a piecemeal fashion, you end up digging a bigger and bigger hole. It’s an endless, “As long as I’m doing this, I may as well do that” merry-go-round.


    If this were my bathroom, even if I was doing it in a budget I would still approach it as all or nothing. I would rip out the mirror and replace it with a mirror hung over the sink — probably a large, round mirror. I would purchase a new vanity “set“ that comes with a stone counter and undermount sink (it’s usually cheaper to buy it that way...as a set). The wall space to the right of the new mirror might be a good place for a couple open shelves. I would use wall hooks for the kids’ towels.


    But really, can you afford to add some plumbing for another sink, because look what you can get for $600 at Ikea:




  • 5 years ago

    ...and the double vanity top is $200, and the lav sat are $50 each:




  • 5 years ago

    I am an outlier here.

    I would keep the counter top as it is, at least until the children are old enough to not stain or chip it.

    Towel hooks have worked a lot better for our grandchildren than towel bars ever did for our children. I'd put one next to the sink and the rest on the long wall at varying heights. Hobby Lobby has a wide variety of styles at reasonable prices.

    Remove the full wall mirror. Before refinishing the wall add another outlet, with 3 teens in your future, you will need it.

    To replace the mirror, buy 2 wall mount medicine cabinets, dual doors with mirrors inside and outside the doors. Makes checking your hair grooming much easier. Between the medicine cabinets put a few open shelves or a small cabinet for additional grooming supply storage. Or - perhaps a hook to hang a blow dryer.

    In a few years, if the space starts feeling tight for your children, replace the art work with a nicely framed mirror.

    By removing the mirror, you can add lighting before refinishing the wall.

  • 5 years ago

    We don’t know your budget, but P M is correct - removing that mirror is a huge job. If it’s worth it to you, be prepared for a mess for days. But it’s a great long term fix for this bathroom. The all-in-one vanity/sink/faucet idea is excellent if you have the budget. I doubt your kids will destroy a new stone top so easily. You haven’t told us the width of the vanity wall. Is there any chance you can fit 2 sinks?
    The most cost effective idea is to shop for a remnant stone top at the stone yards. Bring your measurements! An under mount sink might be offered (my stone yard did kitchen sinks for $30 with any countertop job). A new vanity will give you better space for three children’s’ bathroom items.
    And letting them pick their own towel hooks is a great idea!

  • 5 years ago

    You’ve done an excellent job already! I trust your judgment and agree with you painting the countertop with the epoxy. Do your research for the best; one with warranties.

    You may get 5 years out of it. After that, it’ll be time for another overhaul.

  • PRO
    5 years ago

    If you don't want to replace your mirror, you may be able to frame it instead. It's amazing the difference a frame can make! We have had several customers with outlets in the corner and there are a few ways to work around it. The main question will be if the mirrored strips are level with one another.


    Whether you decide to replace or frame your mirror, we would be more than happy to help you with it!

  • 5 years ago

    We just had a nearly identical vanity in our previous residence. We repainted as well. We removed the 70’s style pendant lights and put in recessed fixtures when we moved in. The “hole” where the chair goes was a great place for a hamper. When we updated (after 20 years and five kids) prior to sale, we reused the large mirror and got an affordable wide vanity at a home store. Note the stock size left a gap on the right where a rolling cart fits perfectly.

    Keep in mind that a kid’s bath will take some abuse so there is no point overthinking - you’ll get to do it again someday!

  • 5 years ago

    I also painted the vanity and updated the lighting in my bathroom. Couldn’t/didn’t remove the huge mirror.

  • 5 years ago

    Removing big mirrors is a gamble. Some come right off and others take the wall with it at adhesive spots. Only try removal if you are prepared to do some wall repair.

  • 5 years ago

    There are frames specifically made for you to stick to the existing mirror. For the outlet, I guess you frame up to it and leave the outlet cover or replace it with a standard cover. Here is the link to Frame My Mirror,, see comment above and links to some other sellers.

    https://www.framemymirror.com/shop/berkshire-black/

    https://www.mirrormate.com/

    https://sawdustsisters.com/stick-on-mirror-frame/

  • 5 years ago

    You could mask off the mirror and walls, prime and spray the current mirror trim in whatever metal or paint color you prefer, and finish with a polyurethane for extra durability- (two or three coats are even better). Your mirror edge CAN be painted! When you wash your mirror, make sure you use a cleaner without ammonia. The outlet cover could be changed to stainless steel. I’ve done this, and it has held up very well! Make sure you mask the inside edge of the mirror completely, otherwise, you will have a reflection of paint. As far as painting the countertop, I think that would be a mistake for a heavily used kid’s bathroom. I would try to find a remnant, as previously suggested. Best of luck to you!

  • 5 years ago

    Thanks for all of the suggestions!

    The intention here was just to make the room clean/nice enough to use until we can actually remodel it properly. It felt so dirty and neglected that I could hardly stand to go in there. Our entire house needs something so it will probably be a few years before we get to this room. Storage hasn't been an issue, but I do think we will want double sinks at some point. We have 59.5" from wall to wall where the vanity is. I think after finding out how expensive a new top would be, I may just wait until we can replace the entire vanity and top at one time. Maybe I will just frame the mirror, buy some towel hooks and pulls, and call it a day.

  • 5 years ago

    I think you're on the right track. Some cosmetic work now and collect ideas for the future. You could take the next few years to try out different paint colors.

    We have a 5'x8' windowless bathroom. I've tried beige, teal, blue and apricot. So far I liked the teal best, but only on 1 wall. Decided all over would be too much. I've tired of the apricot in less than 2 yrs, but I might pair it with the teal and a cream colored ceiling next year.

  • 5 years ago

    The element that clashes is the counter color.

  • 5 years ago

    Don’t give up on the top...usually the big box stores.... like home depot... have them pretty cheap...as low as $99...just get the measurements and look on the internet first...if that size exists..try to get pickup at your local store...if it is comfortable to shop and your size is standard they sometimes have them on sale... as to the hole underneath the cabinet ....looks like a perfect spot for a laundry hamper and maybe a basket of fresh towels...as to the sink ...i would look for the same sink position if possible ...so plumbing will be easier

  • 5 years ago

    We just finished adding trim on the large empty wall so that we have somewhere to put the towel hooks. I think I need smaller art and a different shower curtain now.


  • PRO
    5 years ago

    It's looking nice! If you frame the mirror you can move the outlet somewhat and just do a wider frame around the mirror and you would then incorporate the outlet into the frame.

  • 5 years ago

    That wall looks great!

  • 5 years ago

    Love the board and batten wall treatment, historic and timeless, picture rail is perfect for towel hooks.

  • 5 years ago

    Very nice addition to the wall, good job.

    If you're thinking about changing the artwork, maybe buy three identical frames the size you want, then let each of the children pick a picture for each. Their picture could then be set adjacent their respective hook to id where their towel goes, plus it would give them a feeling of ownership.

  • 5 years ago

    Thanks! I’m pretty happy with how it turned out. I was thinking 3 equal frames as well. I do like the other picture, but it seems too tall maybe?

    Does the shower curtain need to change? I definitely prefer things simple and clean looking, but is it too much white?

  • 5 years ago

    Here it is from a different angle:




  • 5 years ago

    Great job. Looks so much better!

  • 5 years ago

    If sink cabinet is navy...a navy and white shower curtain would be a little more forgiving and interesting...than all white...and as to the hooks ..they should be a pretty low profile...jutting out too far could be dangerous in a kids bath...bars may be safer..

  • 5 years ago

    RE the shower curtain, I don't think it's too much white, and white is the easiest to keep clean/know when it needs a wash. I don't look at a shower curtain as a "feature" or piece of "artwork"; it's purely functional. I find a shower curtain distracts from more important elements when it is bold colors and patterns.

  • 5 years ago

    As far as your current picture possibly being too tall, we can't see how much wall space there is above the picture up to the ceiling. For me, that wall space would determine the height of the frame(s).

  • 5 years ago

    Maybe hang a fun framed picture of each child at waterplay over their towel hook?

  • 5 years ago

    Would the hooks go between the boards like this?

    I think pictures of the kids above their hooks would be cute, but my 13 year old boy would definitely disagree lol.

  • 5 years ago

    Also, I was looking at these hooks, but they stick out almost 3 inches which is probably too far.

  • 5 years ago



  • 5 years ago

    I would put the hooks on the vertical boards as there are three boards. That will put the hooks equidistant from one another and you then are screwing into wood.

  • 5 years ago

    These are our hooks. From amazon. Fairly low profile

  • 5 years ago

    Curious why you think a hook that sticks out 3" may be too much. I would think that size hook would be easiest to use, plus having two-hooks-in-one is a bonus.

  • 5 years ago

    Here is the space above the picture

    And the green tape shows how far out a 3” hook would be. (maybe its ok? its Just kind of narrow in there with the half wall that they built Between the toilet and vanity.)


  • 5 years ago

    Thanks for that picture help.

    Looks like your current picture frame is quite alright...and it aligns with the top of the door and shower tiling to boot. Smaller frames would work also, but to my eye, the size you have looks fine.


    Does your sample hook stick out further than the shelf? If not, that hook will probably be okay.

    Just a thot...if you set pictures on the shelf rather than hang them on the wall, without saying anything, that may kinda-sorta tell the children not to set stuff on the shelf [a good thing].


  • 5 years ago

    Two hooks in one means one towel doesn’t dry

  • 5 years ago

    Yes, two towels right next to each other inhibits drying. My comment was thinking in terms of using two hooks for clothes, etc. while showering, then nothing but one towel after the shower.

  • 5 years ago

    The shelf is out 2.5” and the hook is 2 13/16” so they are close. I don’t think they would hang two towels at once.

  • 5 years ago

    Morning
    Going back to the counter
    There’s companies that do refinish on the counter top that can make it look new in the color you chose
    Not expensive and you save the time of removing.

  • 5 years ago

    We did have someone give us an estimate on refinishing the counter a couple of weeks ago. They quoted us $200. We will probably just hold out until we can replace it.

  • 5 years ago

    Should the boys be able be able to identify their own towel?...as to the hooks..if it is possible to be above eye level..and if there are no sharp edges ...would be good

  • 5 years ago

    And of course a really sturdy ..norug where you step out of the shower

  • 5 years ago

    Sorry ..non- slip rug