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Spice or Devoniensis: Which one a better pot pet?

I used to raise Spice in a pot and loved it. It was healthy, vigorous, bloomed constantly and responded well to pruning. I loved its fragrance and ability to overwinter easily in a sheltered garage. It was a very pretty rose but rather plain. Always reliable but never spectacular.


As much as I would like to grow Spice again, do I really want to grow Devoniensis (own root, bush form) instead? I understand it is a slow grower, which might be ideal for a pot. Are the flowers really as beautiful and is the fragrance really as memorable as I think they might be? Or is it a diva that will break my heart?

Comments (10)

  • 4 years ago

    I have grown Devoniensis (non-climbing form) previously in a pot in the past. It was not the healtiest rose in humid Missouri nor the quickest to repeat, although not bad and still very worth growing in a pot IMO. It grew steadily and never became too large and unmanageable.


    Sheila, yours looks fantastic!

    Chris Martins Zone6a Chicago thanked Dave5bWY
  • 4 years ago

    I actually have 'Devoniensis' in a pot right now. it's been there since I lifted my young (2-year-old) plant from the garden at my old house before we moved. That was in September 2019, and while it's grown steadily since then, I should mention that it seems to hate being pruned at all. I had to trim the canes a bit when I moved it, and it's been very resentful - dying back dramatically on the cut canes. However, it is slowly recovering and rebuilding its shrub shape. In my opinion, it feels a bit stiff for a pot. I think it will be much happier - and look better - once its roots are back in the ground (hopefully in the next month), and it has room to spread its arms (without any fear of a haircut).


    It's been several years since I grew 'Spice' - and it was only a few years old when I left it behind in another earlier move - but I think it has several good qualities for a pot pet. Although it was also rather upright, I like its more relaxed form with slender, flexible canes. I found it also had slightly better repeat bloom than 'Devoniensis' (which is not to say 'Devoniensis' has poor repeat bloom - it doesn't).


    Another rose I currently have in a pot is 'Westside Road Cream Tea'. In 2019, I took cuttings of the plant I had at my last garden, and only one struck, but it's doing phenomenally well in a pot. It has a lovely cascading growth habit - at once twiggy but full - and repeats better than nearly any rose I've grown. I'm sorry to recommend it, since it seems unavailable in commerce at the moment, but if there's any way you can get your hands on one, I think of the three roses, it would make the most rewarding pot pet. Attached are photos of WRCT...purely for temptation. :)





    Chris Martins Zone6a Chicago thanked John (PNW zone 8)
  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    Thank you everyone for the amazing input! I think I am leaning toward Spice again at the moment.

    John, what a superb and useful write up! I am adding Westside Road Cream Tea to my wishlist and will be sure to snap it up

    if I ever see it. This one looks perfect to me. Yours is spectacular!

  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    Beautiful, John. Isn't WRCT the same as Jesse Hildreth? That rose is commercially available and great.


    Chris Martins Zone6a Chicago thanked Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR
  • 4 years ago

    Sheila - has that question been settled? They sure look identical from the pictures I've seen. That would be great if they are actually the same rose. It needs to be spread around a lot more!

    Chris Martins Zone6a Chicago thanked John (PNW zone 8)
  • 4 years ago

    I don't know if they have done the DNA yet, John, but everything I have read pointed to them being the same rose. I remember Ingrid writing about the small brown blossoms WRCT had in extreme heat, and my Jesse does the same thing in extreme heat when most roses shut down.

    Chris Martins Zone6a Chicago thanked Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR
  • 4 years ago

    I have Devoniensis Cl in a pot. Its up against a trellis and is a tall climber. Doesn't mind a pot at all but then again it has rooted itself into the ground like most of my potted plants do here. I don't have the shrub form. It might be slower growing.

    ~Sjn

    Chris Martins Zone6a Chicago thanked sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida-9a-ish)