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Bay Area quotes- help

4 years ago

Just bought a house in the East Bay (SF Bay Area) that needs a number of repairs, upgrades, and renovations. We have about 70k for our first round of changes. But the quotes we’ve received from (we think) reputable companies seem very high (even for this area and supply issues, etc. etc.)

For example

  • a main panel electrical upgrade to 200amp, no rewiring in the house included- 10k
    -building a subfloor out of plywood and pouring self leveler in a 12x12 room to level addition-$6000
  • taking out a load bearing wall -$16,500 (this one actually seems more accurate)
  • architect $10k
    -kitchen remodel (no demo, no floors, ordering but no installation of cabinets, no lighting, keeping plumbing in place) $25k

Can anyone help us gather realistic pricing in the bay?

Comments (9)

  • 4 years ago

    You're WAY out of touch with current remodeling costs. The kitchen is already ridiculously and comically lowball underpriced. Just the materials cost WAY more than that! That kitchen remodel is the entirity of your budget, actually. And that would still be a scary low quote, given current remodeling pricing. Those quoted prices will be very very low by the end of the month when the current spate of inflation gets factored in. Have you been paying attention to gas prices?


    Get the panel done, asap. Then hire the architect for the Big Picture Plan for all the rest. Then STOP spending money until you have that Master Plan.

  • 4 years ago

    Right and if you read the actual post you might have realized that I’m looking for help gathering realistic pricing, not mansplaining inflation and labor shortages. Not a dime has been spent yet.

    Again, looking for assistance in building a range of current pricing for the Bay Area.

  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    This is last year’s numbers. This year’s number are up 20%-30%. And you’re still way out of touch with what things cost 10 years ago. Much less now.


  • 4 years ago

    Not Bay Area, but I did a high end gut remodel of a large kitchen in the Los Angeles area in 2018 and at that time labor only was $50K. We moved the fridge and added an extra oven, so we had to run a new electrical line from the garage across the house through the crawlspace. Everything else stayed in the same spot. Unfortunately prices have only been going up since then.

    Dela thanked chispa
  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    What is included in the kitchen remodel price? Just the cabinets? Not moving anything or redoing plumbing or electrical-, no installation? If so, your kitchen remodel does not seem all that far out of line with the "minor kitchen remodel" of $29K-32 for Pacific SFB area. Why is the labor not included in this quote?

    I look at this data and a lot of times I don't think it reflects what a lot of the average populace considers a "kitchen remodel". For a lot of people a kitchen remodel is changes of finishes and cabinets only, everything remains in the same place, or moves a few inches one way or the other, and they get new cabinets and counters, and possibly new appliances.


    The last three kitchen remodels I can think of among people I know were new cabinets and counters, and mostly new but not all new appliances, and repainting, that's it. Turnaround from start to finish weeks to months. Labor completed in a week or so. That's not usually what we see in GW.

  • 4 years ago

    I'm in Alameda Co. Some of your quotes seem low but we don't really know what you're actually getting quotes on. Like, the electrical seems high, but we don't know what you're starting with. I wouldn't expect an architect do to any design for 10k, but maybe you only need someone to draw your current plan.



    In your situation, it's best to get as many specific quotes as you can stand...and then follow up on references for anyone you might hire. Be sure they don't skimp on permits.


    I'm getting quotes for a few things and everyone is warning that the quotes are good for a shorter than normal period due to price fluctuations. And of course you can't get two companies to quote you the exact same thing...

    Dela thanked Fori
  • 4 years ago

    I had an electrical panel upgraded in Los Angeles in 2018 and it was about $5000. No rewiring except what I assume was necessary for the panel to be connected. Mine was required to comply with Code since every appliance in my kitchen had to be on its own circuit - or whatever the technical term is.


    On the other hand my friend remodeled a single family residence in Los Angeles and it cost an additional $15,000 plus the upgraded panel because it required running from the source in the street - required by current Code


    Like others I am confused by what the kitchen quote covers. The figure is low for a kitchen remodel which includes replacing kitchen cabinets. My kitchen remodel for a relatively small urban kitchen was much higher than that in Los Angeles in 2018. I didn't change the layout since the sink remained where it had been but as I type this I am running through all of the stuff that is involved in actually remodeling a kitchen. You actually need a detailed "plan" with all specifications and finishes to get an accurate "bid" on the project. Anyone who is ballparking the cost of an *abstract* kitchen with no specifications isn't providing any kind of meaningful information. You could easily spend $25,000 for a kitchen "refresh" in San Francisco.

  • 4 years ago

    Price of plywood (any wood) is crazy! When we bought our plywood for our addition approx 2+ years ago, the price was just starting to climb. We got lucky, it ended up selling for 4 times as much just a little later.