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ID of this unwanted interloper

3 years ago
last modified: 3 years ago

This popped up in a shade bed and it is an every year job of removing blooms before they go to seed. It also sends out under the soil runners and makes new plants. It is a basil rosette of leaves with a flower stalk.





Comments (15)

  • 3 years ago

    What's the location?

  • 3 years ago

    Northeast GA Mountains, 15 mins to the SC border. Zone 7b

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Are you 100% certain those leaves go with the flowers? The latter clearly have opposite foliage. The leaves could be alternate, although the arrangement is not clear from the photo.

  • 3 years ago

    Yes, I will get some more pictures


  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Please get a photo of the entire plant , the basal leaves with the flowering stem attached, and a close up of the flowers showing their structure.

  • 3 years ago

    More pictures. Jerked one out of the ground and the first 3 photos show the whole plant.

    This plant send out runners and sends up the rosettes. Most of the stalks with flowers are 3 to 4 feet tall.






  • 3 years ago

    I hope someone can Id this. I have looked at so many images of clusters of white flowers, perennial, ground cover, rosettes etc and can't find anything like it. I plan to eliminate it from this overgrown area, hopefully by next spring and start a new shade bed. Right now it is the curse.

  • 3 years ago

    My only explanation for this plant is a white flowered form of Patrinia scabiosifolia?

  • 3 years ago

    I don’t know Patrinia but I did think it looked like Caprifoliaceae

  • 3 years ago

    The flower definitely looks Valerian-ish. Nothing in Valeriana or Valerianella fits, or anything else in Caprifoliaceae.

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    The stalk is hallow, the roots smell like a dirty wet dog but the leaves do not look anything like the Valerian pictures. Maybe it is a close cousin.

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    A photo in situ with the flowering stem attached? I still haven't seen the blooming stem attached to the basal leaves. Patrinia villosa seems close, except for the absence of any lobed leaves. Are there any lobed leaves on any of the plants? And there's the question of how it came to your garden. Are there any identical plants anywhere in your vicinity? I don't believe villosa has escaped and naturalized anywhere in the southeast, if that's what it is, which is highly questionable.

  • 3 years ago

    The root picture shows the stem coming up from the main roots at 4 to 5 o'clock. The roots send up the rosettes around the stem. The flowers on Patrinia villosa look nothing like the flowers on this plant. This started as a small controllable area but after spinal surgery it took 3 years to be able to get back to working on getting this area cleaned out again so it has gone back to wild and weedy.


    I don't know where this jewel came from. I figured the birds planted it. This area backs up to an expensive subdivision with really big nice homes on half to full acre lots. The people who are living there now are mostly retired and aging in place. They were raising families in the 70's and are still gardening. I have also been gifted with English ivy, wisteria, J privet, J honeysuckle and elaeagnus. Our home is just outside the city line, on a one lane gravel road. The land was a cow pasture, now heavily forested when we bought it and was a terraced cotton field before that. I have spent almost 30 years trying to eradicate some of the gifts from bygone years.

  • 3 years ago

    I don't see any pic with the flowering stem growing out the the basal leaves. If I had that picture, I could run it though an app and also have a better idea of what it might be. When I run the flowers through an app all I get is Valeriana and Valerianella. When I run the basal leaves through an app I get Solidago. The app needs to see both the flowering stem and the basal leaves connected. I don't depend on apps, but I might have a better idea what it is myself if I see the entire plant in situ.

  • 3 years ago

    For future reference, I have went through every species in the order of Dipsacales and came up empty, so I'm considering this a hoax because the OP won't give solid evidence by photo that this plant truly exist.