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Should I Move the Bed?

My wife and I are guests at a client's house, that I designed. The client is related by marriage. I have heard of Frank Lloyd Wright on occasion going into houses he has designed a rearranging the furniture. In the guest bedroom in which we are staying, they have placed the bed in the wrong location. Should I move the bed to the proper location?

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  • PRO
    2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    Really, and no kidding.

    When you are the guest, and you know the accommodations:

    You suck it up and realize that it probably ISN'T your last two or three nights of sleep.

    Or you book the hotel ( this is me)

    Or they come to you and you suck it up.

    Now......there's a dose of reality, huh?

    Re this is me:

    I need togetherness in this manner like a hole in my head.

    When a client says "Please Come!?" I have long ago learned the lesson. Matters not ski, sun, beach, lake, north south. Matters not paid, or unpaid.

    Get the hotel. Make your own travel arrangements, Get your own rental car. Make your own hours, and sleep in your own impersonally designed designed for all space. Roll up your favorite down pillow ( amazing not readily available ) and know when to call visiting over and go to your "corner" .

    If I want to be up at four am ? No worry. Drop dead from exhaustion at 8:00 pm? Same thing : )

    Having plead mercy while shoveling furniture and lamps around at 11:00 pm? You get smart in a hurry.

    Mark Bischak, Architect thanked JAN MOYER
  • PRO
    2 years ago

    "I think they should tear down the house and start over!"

    The builder did not completely follow the construction drawings, but not enough difference to justify a teardown. Sometimes even the best options are not feasible.

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    What if the hotel has the bed on the wrong wall??

  • 2 years ago

    I was a guest this week for Thanksgiving. Their Extra bedroom was their tv nap room. Had to put the mattress on the floor because the sofa bed frame was killing my hips. No room to walk around. Then getting up from a floor mattress in the middle of the night 🤦‍♀️! Every wall was covered in family photos 😱

    They are 86! and I still had a great time.
    But must admit, so happy to be home!!!

    Mark Bischak, Architect thanked njmomma
  • PRO
    2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    "What if ( in a hotel ) the bed is on the wrong wall. ??

    Truth? I've never found it to BE on the wrong wall.

    Not anywhere in Europe, Paris To Florence, not in the USA. Not in a Best Western, Mariott, or the Helmsley, Ritz Carlton, or the Plaza : )

    KInd of amazing.

    Best sleep ever? In a tiny room in Florence, twin shoved near a wall, huge armoire on the other, on pure linen blinding white sheets, fat and fluffy duvet, freezing temp by most peoples standards. Pure..............HEAVEN.

    Notably, post two days snowed in at Kennedy/NYC.......................WAH.

    Mark Bischak, Architect thanked JAN MOYER
  • 2 years ago

    Sounds like they didn't want you getting too comfortable in their digs to make your stay more extended than they would like. I should have thought of that before building a such a comfortable bedroom in my basement....I'm on DAY 4 of in-laws under my feet 😱.

    Mark Bischak, Architect thanked shead
  • PRO
    2 years ago

    So it is not a matter of bed on wrong wall, but snow in the wrong state. Sorry to hear that.

  • PRO
    2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    I never thought that they did not like me. How could anyone not like me?



    DO NOT ANSWER THAT QUESTION ! !

  • 2 years ago

    😆🤣😂

    Mark Bischak, Architect thanked njmomma
  • PRO
    2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    I'm sure they love you.......!! Degrees matter?

    That said ? The fastest way to turn that upside down IS whining about how/ where you sleep?

    It's a bit like walking into a client's home and finding the two comfy chairs you angled just so!!!? Are yet again in a straight on boxy view to the idiot box. The beautiful side table between looks like that in a nursing home, ( tissue box, water bottle, coasters from a millennium ago , all the junk mail from last week, and piece de resistance?? A convenient trash can.

    The throws over which you agonized have been replaced with moth eaten cheapies from who knows where, and on it goes. Sigh.....







    Add duct tape. Talk to yourself in the car. Seek wine.

    Mark Bischak, Architect thanked JAN MOYER
  • PRO
    2 years ago

    I think if it were not for the wine I brought down there, the bed would be in a different location now.

  • 2 years ago

    > What if the hotel has the bed on the wrong wall??


    Add more pillows until the equation works out properly.


    That said, I have actually moved a hotel bed when the couple next door (or perhaps it was a crowd-- hard to tell) was a bit too rambunctious.

    Mark Bischak, Architect thanked Jennifer K
  • 2 years ago

    Next Thanksgiving...

    Guest Room

    Mark Bischak, Architect thanked worthy
  • PRO
    2 years ago

    SEE ! ! Even she figured out what end of the tub the pillows should be at.

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    Pillows are another thread.

  • 2 years ago

    Isn't there a thread somewhere about how to select an architect? I think some revisions are in order....

    Mark Bischak, Architect thanked G W
  • 2 years ago

    Client should consider architect's intellectual property rights to include placement of knick knacks and care keys in perpetuity.  Architect should consider client's likelihood of booby-trapping said intellectual property.

    Mark Bischak, Architect thanked G W
  • PRO
    2 years ago

    Is that "architect's intellectual property" or architect's intellectual capability?

  • 2 years ago

    Ah, I had not considered that....are you as an architect capable to tell me where to keep my keys? But then, would you be responsible to come help me find them?

    Mark Bischak, Architect thanked G W
  • PRO
    2 years ago

    ". . . are you as an architect capable to tell me where to keep my keys?"

    That . . . Is a loaded question.


    "But then, would you be responsible to come help me find them?"

    Only if you put them where they belong.

  • 2 years ago

    Having seen on ”floorplans of the past” layouts that do dictate where the ironing board, if not car keys, I would think you could just refer to the plans to find whatever is missing. You know, read the instructions.

    Mark Bischak, Architect thanked bpath
  • 2 years ago

    This sounds like a Design Delimma or Home Decorating topic. Seems like our forum mods are lax on proper use of topics, in sub catagories. I could very well ask what type of fire place insert should I get, and place it in furniture.

    Mark Bischak, Architect thanked J C
  • PRO
    2 years ago

    I gave it long deep thought and placed it in the categories I deemed appropriate.

  • PRO
    2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    I gave it long deep thought and found it the most entertaining/refreshing thread in quite a while!

    Given 80% of these and the op's are humorless, whiny, veer to criticism of delivery versus quality of reply advice.

    " Mean! Not what I wanted to hear" ..."Not what I asked!"

    As I said.....refreshing : )!

    Mark Bischak, Architect thanked JAN MOYER
  • PRO
    2 years ago

    I'm betting on over 100 responses...! Keep it up folks...:-)

  • 2 years ago

    "I think if it were not for the wine I brought down there, the bed would be in a different location now."

    This is inverse of what I would have thought wine would do for the bravery factor:

    - 1st Glass, sitting down postulating: "I think I am going to do it. What do you think Betty, will they notice or be offended?"

    - 2nd Glass, looking under the bed and estimating the room: "It's just gotta be done, Betty, someone has to do it and they'll thank me later."

    - 3rd Glass, sleeves rolled up and perspiring because it was heavier than estimated: "Man the door Betty! Knock twice if ya hear footsteps! Wait, no, maybe three coughs instead!"

    - 3.5 Glass, resting on a half-rotated bed: "Lil help, Betts, I started and I'm gonna finish. Ya know I never leave anything unfini . . . . where's the wine?"

    - 4th Glass, leaning against the wall purveying your work: "Sheee, Bett? I told ya thish ish how the bed should be. Where'z other bottle?"

    - 5th Glass, running outside in freezing weather in your onesie pajamas: "Imma gonna whittle mine own bed outta theeeeesh firewood! Whoa, look at dat moon, wait, what I doin out here?"

    Mark Bischak, Architect thanked 3onthetree
  • 2 years ago

    " The builder did not completely follow the construction drawings, but not enough difference to justify a teardown. Sometimes even the best options are not feasible."


    This is our reality. It's not easy to accept, but accept we must. The plan was perfect, its implementation was not. Being either out of town at our (then) primary residence during construction or recovering from surgery and accidents meant that we were unaware of most screw-ups until too late. I recall advice here to hire the architect to oversee construction. If only that had been possible.


    Glad you had enough wine to get through your visit without upsetting family relations.

    Mark Bischak, Architect thanked JP Haus
  • PRO
    2 years ago

    I thought I saw someone outside at the window. Thank you for changing my wife's name to protect her.

  • PRO
    2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    This is what was drawn:


    This is what was built:

    (having trouble posting this image that shows a 12" square column pier)

    This is what it was changed to by direction of owner


  • PRO
    2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    Above: Just shoot me: )

    Ought to be a law.....

    Mark Bischak, Architect thanked JAN MOYER
  • 2 years ago

    Ouch, that is kind of hard to look at. Why???

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    What is so hard to look at?

  • 2 years ago

    Living near a bluff and ravines subject to erosion, I find that bluff pretty hard to look at. nice house and view, though!

    Mark Bischak, Architect thanked bpath
  • PRO
    2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    When I designed the house, the property between my client's house and the lake had a lot more trees on it that blocked the view of the lake. I put a lot of windows on that side of the house so they would have a view of the woods. Unbeknownst to everyone the neighbor cut down all their trees which revealed a grand view.


  • 2 years ago

    My neighbors never to anything that nice!

    Mark Bischak, Architect thanked fissfiss
  • 2 years ago

    Awesome view.

    Mark Bischak, Architect thanked functionthenlook
  • PRO
    2 years ago

    100 posts...I knew it! Congratulations, Mark--you did it!

    Mark Bischak, Architect thanked Virgil Carter Fine Art
  • PRO
    2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    I wish I had a prize for the person that made the 100th comment, but you will have to settle for a thank you and a like.

  • PRO
    2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    Kill me! What's so special about 100 when there are threads that are still going in dilemmas...ad "barferoo" for four years and topping 13,000 comments?

    Do I get a Collie or anything for pointing out this ( sad, sad, ) fact?

    Mark Bischak, Architect thanked JAN MOYER
  • PRO
    2 years ago

    I was amazed I got one comment, so 100 is that much more amazing.

    No, but you do get a thank you and a like.

  • PRO
  • PRO
    2 years ago

    "When I designed the house I put a lot of windows on that side of the house so they would have THE GRAND FUTURE VIEW OF THE LAKE I SAW IN A VISION"


    Fixed.

    Mark Bischak, Architect thanked Jeffrey R. Grenz, General Contractor
  • PRO
    2 years ago

    "When I designed the house I put a lot of windows on that side of the house so they would have THE GRAND FUTURE VIEW when their trained beavers gnawed down all their neighbors trees"

  • 2 years ago

    Well, I think virgil was commenting on the 100-comment prediction upthread.

    This is one of the most entertaining threads ever, along the lines of the towel pig and the broom threads.

  • 2 years ago

    And yet no one has mined the comic potential of what others in the house might have thought of the sounds of the remodeling occurring in the middle of the night. We urge privacy for bedrooms.....but probably no one ever thought it would be for this reason.

  • PRO
    2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    I was not contemplating remodeling, only relocating a bed, which is the equivalent of two twin beds (one on wheels) and a queen headboard. The dastardly deed of moving the furniture would have been stealthily performed, if it had happened.

  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    I’m betting that if you’d asked if you could move the bed because of the bathroom issue with the promise to move it back before you left, they would’ve obliged.

    Then you could have conveniently forgotten to do so and have blamed it on aging, etc. 😂

    Mark Bischak, Architect thanked shead
  • PRO
    2 years ago

    "blamed it on aging"

    They would believe me. Better yet, they would have forgot where the bed was in the first place.

  • 2 years ago

    That’s your plan for next time then! It’ll be a win for everyone!

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    Well, my brother-in-law and his wife and their son just left after their two day visit, and they did not move the bed from where I positioned it in the guest bedroom.

    Hope everyone had a very merry Christmas and are getting ready for one of the greatest new years ever.