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Let's play with my Snazzy Garottage project

12 years ago
last modified: 11 years ago
We're building a carriage house (we prefer the term garottage) on a lot behind our house this summer. It will function as garage space (mainly boat/shed storage) with simple guest quarters above. Our original garottage is pictured above... Haha, it was truly a garROTage, built in 1940, I think. It was torn down last fall. Please don't bother telling me how to fix THAT garottage--IT'S GONE NOW! :) I used it as the dilemma icon to remind me how far we'll get with something "snazzier". :)

To be economical, we're planning on a 2-story structure. The new garottage must meet city code and have more living than garage space--61% living space--but the city is allowing a screened porch to count as living (Yay!) so we want to incorporate that on the structure. We hope to get 2br, 1 bath, a kitchen(ette) and laundry from the living space above, and a large-ish garage space below. This is a summer vacation spot and family/guest overflow space is what we're after!

We're meeting with the city planner and our builder/carpenter this weekend. We have some general ideas from looking at plans online, but have not purchased any yet. We'll know more soon about what we can and can't do after talking to our people here.

I don't have a specific dilemma/question yet, but started the thread to have a spot to be able to do that. I'm sure I'll have TONS of things I'll need opinions about! So, I'd appreciate any feedback as this project moves along! I'm terrible at envisioning things, and more terrible at decorating, so I hope the feedback, suggestions, advice and encouragement will keep me sane and make this a snazzy garottage worthy of the lovely setting it's on. Thank you! :)

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  • 3 days ago

    Thanks Fiss! My decorating style tends to be basic traditional with not a lot of color on the walls and simple window treatments. So while it’s not. Spectacular, it’s not offensive, either. Also clutter and collections make me bagiggity,

  • 3 days ago
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    Too bad she's not into it, we could have had fun!

    (And now I'm going to look up 'bagiggity')

  • 3 days ago

    That's an amazing number of stained glass windows (of various shapes) in a single house. I wonder if the original owner/builder did stained glass as a hobby and this house was his/her masterpiece or if they just loved stained glass and commissioned all those windows. All the stained glass could be removed and perhaps sold at auction or donated or ??? but some are really odd shapes and sizes. The regular windows could have custom replacement windows made that would help with heating and cooling but they would cost a pretty penny. I think a buyer would have to be drawn to the location and have the funds (and time/patience) for the reno to get involved with this house which was a dream for the original owners.

  • 3 days ago

    Maybe the house was originally built for a pastor of a church. 🤷‍♀️

  • 3 days ago

    Well, that house would be really interesting to fix up. It needs some walls instead of railings! I think I would call it “modern Prairie Style/ Frank Lloyd Wright/Tiffany windows, 70’s mash up” The outside view of the front door really shows the good bones, the curb appeal is excellent, it really looks “expensive”.

  • 3 days ago

    I did find the old real estate brochure for our place in CO….tenants’ furniture. We bought it for the view, and the unfinished basement space that could be converted into 2 bedrooms and count as real square footage.

  • 3 days ago

    That view is worth what ever you paid for it!

  • 3 days ago

    I am really digging that orange chair/ottoman and the HOPE pillow. I grew up with a needlepoint throw pillow my mom did with the LOVE ala Robert Indiana. She probably got the pattern at the Chicago Art Institute shop...


    Wish I still had that thing.

    I found this online. Maybe I need this one even more? It's already made into a pillow too! LOL


    Dang it. They're sold out.

  • 3 days ago

    Here's where I found it tho. LOL



  • 3 days ago

    Jay, exactly my thinking on the stained glass. All decor is really an art installation, imo…it’s what people do with their creative impulses.

  • 3 days ago

    Sigh. It would be hilarious if I could talk SIL into looking at that stained glass house. Maybe they are all just window clingy things?? ROFL Now, wouldn't that be a hoot?

  • 3 days ago
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    Today I finally made a specific trip to Michaels for a frame for my FireHorse poster that has been sitting on the DR table all summer... ROFL

    I put it here, bc the LR still needs more jolts of color, and more horses. LOL



    The little orange/red thing next to it is the actual canvas square cut from the mural that the poster was made from. It's the eye of the horse, and the star on its forehead. I'm debating whether to put it on the blank wall next to the poster, or just leave it propped up there like that. It kind of works for me like it is... I just stuck it in a 12x12 album frame I had here bc it kind of matched the blond wood frame I got for the poster.

    The better image of the poster is here. (click the word here)

    LOL Don't look too close at that snake plant near the window. It's so floppy and huge. I've had that thing since I was 18 years old. It was my first "plant" and I just let it get wild in its old age. LOL Sort of like me, I guess.

  • 3 days ago
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    Leave it propped up. Looks effortless (must be one of interior mags favourite words, ha) and 'artsy'.

    I love how those two works not only go but actually belong together

  • 2 days ago

    Rred, I’m LMAO at the similarity….

    Maybe the stained glass is there to block out peepers while affording the ability to keep no curtains or blinds? While I love stained glass (wanted to do that as a hobby and inherited every tool needed to make that happen…but no time so gave all away), I think the style of the stained glass is not keeping with the house style. Graphics more modern would work better. The dining room wallpaper reminds me of something my older sis would put up.

    Either the owner is a stained glass hobbiest or Bigly rich or those are clings!!! Probably clings.

    As OB and I pay not too hard attention to homes around us, he’s shocked as to how good things look in photos versus in person. (I told him this would be expected, by me, who would drag a young YS around to homes having open houses simply because I always loved the houses and I wanted to see inside. I’m nebby.)

  • 2 days ago

    The siding project has started. They are tearing off the old siding and it’s loud ! Mr ‘s anxiety due to people touching his stuff is pretty high. It needed to be done, but G-d help us!

  • 2 days ago

    Take MR for a long ride somewhere today. And tomorrow! Some thins you don’t want to see.😆 or hear!

  • 2 days ago

    PV, my aunt and I would go to new subdivisions display homes to see how the decorators did their thing. Almost every weekend. That is how I wound up being my first condo at age 28. Back in the day when very few single women bought a home. The older women at work said I reminded them of Mary Tyler Moore, and her shows of single women doing it on their own.😁

  • 2 days ago

    Yesterday we girls went to a very funny play then dinner. Today shopping in Pensacola. It’s been awhile since we have been to the BIG stores to browse decor and clothes. We want or need nothing, but you don’t know it until you see it.😆

  • 2 days ago

    Gls, we are going to take a walk, but part of the “ touching my stuff” issue means he can’t be away too long!
    Right now he’s setting up a guest wifi for them , because we have no cell phone signal here

  • 2 days ago

    I vote propped up…connects the two more definitively. Great location for horse btw. Clings…hm…I doubt it. Too precisely done to those odd shaped windows.

  • 2 days ago

    Ladma, I feel your pain. Getting house scraped and painted soon 😵‍💫 cats will go ballistic. Luckily it is just the north side.

  • 2 days ago

    Gls…did you find anything?

  • 2 days ago

    Here's an idea, rred. You call the listing agent of the stained glass house and ask if those are real stained glass or not. Just explain your SIL is looking around the area, and the house fits the bill, but probably not if she has to replace the glass in that many windows. Then you can report back!


  • 2 days ago

    Rred, what is the story behind the Tiffany-style table lamp? Was it a special gift in the past? Is it made from hundreds of individually soldered pieces of glass or is it an illusion of stained glass?

  • 2 days ago

    I could do a drive by too... and look at them myself.


    BUT, the newest development is that SIL is still living in a hotel, right? She has just realized that she needs an Iowa car registration... her Oregon car registration, license plate and tags expire in October. And along with that, her birthday next month is also the expiration date of her Oregon driver's license. So she went to the IDOT website to learn what she needs to get her Iowa Real ID/DL and guess what? She has a PO box but no in-state home address. Doesn't get mail here, doesn't have any utilities in her name here, holds no lease agreement or does any local business here and for all intents and purposes, is not a state of Iowa resident. It says right on the Real ID requirement list that you need 1) proof of ID (birth certificate/passport) 2) proof of her SSN (your Soc Sec card, a W2 or tax form w name and full SSN) and 3) TWO PIECES OF OFFICIAL MAIL w her name/current IOWA address on it. A POBox doesn't qualify...


    This is what we're dealing with... Otherhalf is so over it. We have tried and tried to get her to get these things done, in the right order, but she just ... doesn't... listen.

  • yesterday

    Wow…bureaucracy at work! 🤣 That will light a fire under her.

  • yesterday

    Eeek, Rred! Indecision causes yet another malfunction of humongous proportions. Sometimes we are our own worst enemies.

    Please let us know how this juicy story gets resolved. “As the stomach churns…..”

  • yesterday

    Got our own stomach churns drama happening here. It’s not my drama, thankfully, I got a front row seat tho….so far it’s progressing just as we expected and time is running awfully short.

  • yesterday

    Rred, call the realtor. 😂 Those could be clings…..my bestie has the design and printing equipment to make her own, which she’s done. She’s completed vehicle wraps, wall murals, displays….from design to install. Although, her most impressive wall art was done in her own former home with wall paint and brushes. She did an hombre effect for two walls across from a window then somehow made tree shadows, very light tree shadows, without using diluted paint. I sat in her living room thinking the tree shadows across from me were real until I realized the window behind had no trees there. Her first attempt wasn’t successful, in her opinion, so she did it again.

  • yesterday

    PV interesting concept I should’ve thought of that… They might be custom window clings and that would make way more sense than custom stain glass. Whatever your current drama is I hope it’s resolving painlessly for all concerned. Same for you, Rred…

  • yesterday

    Well rred, I guess when your SIL has to uber, she will decide she needs to do something. At least rent something so she can have a permanent address.

  • yesterday

    My gut feeling is that those stained glass windows are really stained glass windows... it's a really nice home in a really nice neighborhood, yada yada yada...

    And, I am sorry to drag my SIL's dirty laundry here, but geezaloo I had to vent and you all got to hear a piece of it. LOL . She is the world's most frustrating person to try to help. Yet she keeps asking us to help her... Her other sister, the one with the pool house, is about as helpless and indecisive, but somehow she has managed to maintain a residency here. LOL I just keep telling myself, "This could be me..." and act accordingly with them. lol

  • yesterday

    Jay that table lamp in our LR is a real stained glass piece, not expensive/fancy, but substantial and heavy and I remember liking it for the design and colors, so I bought it for myself. It's a design of "willow trees" -- got it before C ever came up with the term "Tree House" for this place. I have a fake Tiffany lamp at the lake house too that has birds on it, with red eyes that glow. LOL Of course that one is in the "Bird Room" (the den) with that crazy gallery wall of birds.

  • yesterday
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    Apparently at some point yesterday I flipped into the Find Pros section and hit a button for General Contractors. By the time I got up this morning I had 6 messages on my phone, 3 texts, and it pretty much went on all day.

    Do I need to mention I didn't mean to? LOL

  • yesterday

    Nw, 😂😂. I am trying to get my youngest brother a cleaning lady. He says a friend can give him names. But the one he called hasn’t made to the condo yet.🤪 So I got on Angi’s List. One of us was texting back and both and told her call him. In the meantime Angi is sending me a couple of names a day! The joys of trying to help 740 miles away.🙄

  • yesterday

    RRed, your SIL is becoming a non person I guess.🤷‍♀️

  • yesterday

    LOL Glassy... sort of like the sov cits we see in courts? "I am a person traveling..." LOL

  • yesterday

    Today I repotted some things bc my new batch of clear plastic planter pots came in! ta da! These things are awesome.

    I have a whole bunch of sizes now!






    I love them because you can see the roots. Exhibit A:



    This pothos is now all better in a size up!

  • yesterday

    More newly upsized plants...


    Foxtail fern got the biggest sized one. This is gonna have to be named Big Bertha. She is heavy!!





  • yesterday

    I need a better grow light situation in the LR... maybe that is something to get next month before winter sets in?

  • 16 hours ago
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    Big Bertha, haha, as trained historian I can appreciate that! I want, no, need, those clear planter pots, they are brilliant! My zz plants in particular are a bit of a nuisance, they like to sit very snug but of course there's a limit to how many roots can fit into a pot and still have soil left for sustenance, lol.

    " She is the world's most frustrating person to try to help. Yet she keeps asking us to help her..." - sounds like one of my clients 🙄

    Btw, am I the only one who read an extra I in IDOT website?

    Duckie, hahaha! It could so happen to me as well.

    Ladma, I feel for Mr, I am just like that, hate having strangers over. Today we had some insulation work done at the house and I fled to my mother's, last night! And when the workmen had left I drove home and the first thing I did was clean the toilet. I hope Mr Lad did not feel the need to clean his entire house!

  • 14 hours ago

    The contractor has a portapotty in the driveway, so o don’t need to worry about strangers using my toilets! We did however discover the source of the intermittent bad smell in and around the front hall. Water, a little mold and as the workers say in Portuguese “ coco de rato” Mr cleaned and disinfected the cavity, and the contractors will put it back together.

  • 11 hours ago

    hahahaha "coco de rato" What a way with words!

  • 11 hours ago

    Those clear planter pots are game changers. Lemme find that link for you and see if you can find them there Babo!

  • 11 hours ago
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    Here is the "large" set...



    And these are the smaller ones I got last year...


    One thing I hate about the rainforest is that the items are purposefully not shown with any kind of scale. The pic I posted up there shows them all (both sets w all the sizes) to give you an idea of how tiny to big they are. I mean, they give measurements, but I like to have something for scale. I'm more visual than mathematical. LOL

  • 11 hours ago

    I need to get a few more suitable cover pots to put some of them inside... I prefer to use ones without drain holes so that I can use the cover pots to catch any dripping. Works well for me that way!

  • 9 hours ago

    I’m slightly jealous here… Evidently batty does not chew on your plants? I’ve had to give 90% of my plants away.😾

  • 9 hours ago

    She sometimes chews on the ponytail palm (It's pretty dangly and she likes the rough sharp leaves, which are not toxic to pets), but she pretty much leaves most of them alone. This winter, I'll pick up some live "cat grass" for her, and she might nibble on it a bit, but she isn't really a big plant eater. I've had other cats that did do lots of damage, tho. I just got lucky w Batty being blasé about greens.

  • 53 minutes ago

    "coco de rato", LOL!

    Thanks, rred, I'll see what I can find over here.

  • 52 minutes ago

    "coco de rato", LOL!

    Thanks, rred, I'll see what I can find over here.