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Looking for help with HVAC issues….we need a guru!

3 years ago

We’ve got a problem that is driving me batty. We live in the NC mountains, where winter air is super dry, but summers, despite cool air, are very humid. Ours is not a partly occupied vacay house, but our full-time home; we use our AC in summers, and gas heat (LP) in winters, accented by wood fires. The house was built/completed in 2005, and we purchased it in late summer of 2016; most of the equipment is original but in good working order, we’re told. Here’s our issue: a couple of years ago, in between AC and heating season, I started to notice a musty odor coming from one of the returns, but once the heat started running regularly it seemed to go away. Last fall, not immediately when we first turned to heat, but rather 2-3 weeks later, I noticed that now a strong, musty odor came directly from the vents, which had never happened before. We thought that after running the heat for a while it would stop, but it didn’t. I must have good olfactory senses, because it really bothers me. (Many summer homes here smell very musty because houses either don’t have AC, or people just don’t use it because of our normally cool temps in summer. I, however, am very aware of humidity and close all windows when it gets humid and turn on AC, esp. to remove humidity from the house.) We called HVAC service folks to check everything thoroughly and were told that everything was in good working order, but they did clean coils etc and performed routine maintenance. At the same time we had a different company come to clean and disinfect the ducting; we were told things looked good and the ducts were not very dirty at all. None of this had made a dang bit of difference, and the odor is just blowing through the house each time the unit engages…it is maddening to me and I feel that it will just get worse, new sofas, chairs and everything will start to reek. What do we do now??? We have never, ever had a musty house, and I’m obviously very concerned. DH smells it too, but says it doesn’t really bother him…ridiculous! (I think he just doesn’t want to deal because he has no idea what to do now and the service guys said everything was good.) I tried to do some research online, but the only things I found were A. either the possibility of a clogged outlet pipe if there water around the unit (DH says no), or B. that the unit is either oversized or undersized for our house. I have no specs, but our house is just under 5000 sf and we have one large unit for upstairs and downstairs. (The lower level is a walkout/daylight basement.) I am very much hoping that there is some HVAC genius on HOUZZ who can help us here….no one I’ve spoken to has had any ideas as to what could be going on. I know this is not normal and there MUST be a reason, esp since this issue only started a while ago.
Sorry for my long-winded post, but I’m pretty desperate.😭)

Comments (10)

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Is your home constructed on a crawl space? Is the HVAC ductwork installed in the crawl? Is the crawl a conventional, vented crawl space or a conditioned crawl space? Have you or can you inspect the crawl space for mold/mildew/moisture issues?

  • 3 years ago

    My guess is that there is condensate water accumulating somewhere and getting moldy. Where is the indoor unit located? Is there a pipe draining to exterior?

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    What is your humidity reading in the house? We are in a NC mountainous area as well. We need to run dehumidifiers in the spring and summer and humidifiers in the winter. Even with AC running there were days where humidity would go over 50. On some cooler rainy days it would be up at 58%. I know they say to keep humidity under 60 but that is way to high for me. We keep humidity between 45 and 50.


    We have a whole home dehumidifier for our walkout basment and portable unit for our main level. When our neighbor first started living in his new home doors in his walkout basement started getting moldy because the humidity was too high. He also needed to get a dehumidifer.


    I would buy a hygrometer and check the humidity levels. You can buy them on amazon and they are not expensive.

  • 3 years ago

    Thank you for weighing in. No crawl space; house is built on the side of a mountain, all concrete down below….we’d have to jackhammer open the lower floors to investigate. Floor heat runs through in lower level, as well….we’ve never messed with it. As far as measuring humidity, we have not measured individual rooms. We do have a weather station that shows indoor and outdoor humidity; very dry in winter (sometimes below 30%….we have a whole-house humidifier but never run it because it blows cold air all the time), but during the summers I run the AC so indoor humidity stays between 45-50%. It’s baffling to me because the smell is apparent even when the air is bone dry in winter….Water condensate somewhere was my guess, too, Seabornman, but my husband checks all that, as well as the HVAC service people, and SEEMINGLY there’s no issue. (But that’s what it smells like to me!) So who do I get to locate this for me?? DH is to the point he growls when I even mention this…..but I swear to you it’s 100% real and I know others must smell it, too. (Of course most people are soo polite and say “oh, I don’t smell a thing”.)

  • 3 years ago

    Vinmarks: thanks for your ideas/suggestions. I know mountain homes can be tricky; we are at 4500’ elevation. We looked at one home that was so reeky that we knew it needed all new flooring, drywall, everything…we walked away from that one! There were no such signs in this house (previous owners also lived here full-time) whatsoever, no mold anywhere, no red flags….until this all started. We stay on top of all repairs, leaks etc (the driving rain up here can be nuts!), have ours systems checked/serviced, which is why this is so frustrating😢😢😢

  • 3 years ago

    @coray. I completely understand. Smells drive me insane. I think I am a super smeller. I think my husband is nose blind. If your relative humidity is 45-50% then it's not that.


    Just a thought but are there any floor drains or sinks/bathtubs that don't get used. Is it possible it is a dried out trap?


    We have one room in our house that smells musty. It is my sons room. And no he's not smoking weed or anything like that. I would get whiffs of mustiness before he even stayed in that room. One thing that doesn't help is the door is closed a lot and there is no individual return vent so the smell builds up. The return vent is in the hallway. i have no clue what is causing it. It's not humidity. There is no mold anywhere. There is an unfinished storage room on one side which is completely dry no mustiness, unfinished mechanical room behind his room which is completely dry, no mustiness and then a finished exercise room on the other side which does not smell musty.


    Good luck. Hope you get it figured out.

  • 3 years ago

    Thank you, vinmarks. No, it’s definitely not coming from tub drains etc….DH has a plumbing background so he’s on top of all of that. You can smell it walking past the returns, and immediately as soon as the system starts up. We do have a mechanical room downstairs with a floor drain that the unit allegedly drains into (which then drains to the outside, somehow), and it does smell like that….of course DH says it’s not that. (My strong feeling is that these 2 situations are connected!) 😩😩

  • 3 years ago

    Try running a bleach solution down that condensate line.

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Most homes operate at negative pressure so odors can be pulled into leaky return ductwork from anywhere and transported throughout the home. If the drain in the mechanical room smells like mildew/mold than you'll need to periodically treat it. I'll second Seabornman's suggestion to use bleach for that purpose. The other issue is that you have a single air handling system for all levels in your home. Basements typically have little or no demand for air conditioning (and thus no dehumidification,) so you may need to install a dehumidifier for the basement level. An inexpensive thermo-hygrometer is a good tool for checking relative humidity on each level as one poster suggested. You'll be well served if you can keep it under 50%