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New construction, guest bath design - Will these rooms work together?

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We're building a new home here in Santa Rosa California and would appreciate design opinions on our plan for a small guest bath.


Our lot sits up high on a mountain overlooking the Coastal Mountain Range in the distance, so the setting for our home is rolling, tree-covered hills mixed with vineyards as far as you can see. The overall feel for the house design is warm modern contemporary.


For example, the kitchen island countertop will be done in this Silestone Concrete Pulse color. The island seating counter will have two black metal round legs supporting it, similar to this inspiration photo. The work counter all along the wall behind the island will be done with a Dekton solid mat-black product. The backsplash will continue up from that black counter with more Concrete Pulse, again similar to the photo.




Cabinetry will be walnut and the floor will be Karastan Light Oak plank.



So, our dilemma is with whether or not the design we're planning for the guest bath will play well with this warm modern feel of the rest of the house. Our thought is to use both the blue and green 12" x 24"tiles in this inspiration photo, applying them in a similar color-blocking way to saturate the entire room with these two colors. Including the floor.


For the vanity, we're considering a small all white wall mounted floating sink cabinet with a floating white shelf below. The bathroom look will lean toward modern minimalist, European.





Our feeling is that, yes, the bath is a bit high-style, but what better room to have fun with than a guest powder room? :)


Are these two looks just too far apart to work well together?

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    Chips, chips, Dekton has a rep for chips. Not a product I'd choose for a counter. On the wall it can work. The lvp has some reviews that suggest caution. The color is noted as greyer than anticipated, it lacks underlayment and the click comes damaged. It's always recommended to get a full box to lay out in your light to see what you're getting. Check the strength of the tongue to see if it can be snapped. I also do not like the lack of wear layer info or overall thickness info on the site for this product. Karastan offers engineered natural hardwood European Oak products. Again, no info on width of the plank, thickness of the top hardwood layer or composition and construction of the core. No country of origin unlike the lvp which is listed as US.

    For the tile, I like the look. It needs matching grout to get that look. Do they have a specification for that? Is it urethane or epoxy to avoid future staining?

    rogerc thanked dan1888
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    I don't love the flooring with the kitchen walnut, looks QUITE yellow.

    Clarify "guest bath"

    It is NOT a wet bath....it's a POWDER ROOM

    There is no way a powder room needs that amount of tile.

    I would re think that flooring to a deeper tone.

    Before any floor? Buy a few boxes and TEST in your space.....

    Don't love this, sorry






    rogerc thanked JAN MOYER
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    If I could afford to build a house in Santa Rosa, I wouldn't be using fake materials, like LVP. I'd use a good engineered wood. Your site sounds amazing--unless you're very sure of your design abilities (which, judging from your questions, I don't think you are), you would benefit from using a design professional to make sure that the house is cohesive and gives you the feel you want.

    rogerc thanked Diana Bier Interiors, LLC
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    Ditto on the comments so far. There are gorgeous dark granites that will do what your inspiration photo looks like without the chipping issues of Dekton. There are gorgeous (and practical) engineered wood options that will work with your walnut cabinets. But back to your guest bath question. Love the tile colors together. Make sure the tile is rated for floors - and like already said tread lightly with placement so you don’t feel like you’re in an institutional restroom.

    rogerc thanked thinkdesignlive
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    @dan1888 Thank you for sharing your research and thoughts on what to look out for.

    Regarding Dekton, I'll definitely share your points with our installer before any purchase.


    On the Karastan flooring, I'll take your advice to order a box to inspect and share what I find.


    Thanks also for your opinion of the blue and green tiles. We had been wondering how the installation in the inspiration photo became so monolithic looking. Now we know, thanks! I'll ask our tile provider if there is a color-matched grout.

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    An installer is not an owner with time using Dekton. You need to go much deeper, ime, before investing in a major component with a known history of problems right from the start.

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    @JAN MOYER Thank you for the great advice.


    Shame on me. I should know by now to not post images from manufacturer websites. They're never accurate! :)


    The flooring is not nearly that yellow. Does this photo of the actual material help you warm up to it? Not quite yet?



    And I really could have added a comment regarding the cabinetry in the inspiration photo. We're only using the Concrete Pulse countertop product from that photo and not using that particular walnut as my post may have made it seem. (Although I do love that cloudy black Silestone, we're planning for a solid black product on the back work counter).


    For cabinetry in kitchen and the two other baths, we're considering this slightly darker walnut.







    Yes, the bath in the tile question is actually a small, third full bath with walk in shower for guests.



    Maybe too small for bold color blocking?


    We'll be ordering a box of the flooring today to try it out. Thanks for the suggestion. I do appreciate all the advice.


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    @Diana Bier Interiors, LLC Thanks for the kind and thoughtful comments.


    I did say we are building a house in Santa Rosa, but I didn't say we can afford to. Haha!


    Yes, the Karastan Bellencourt material seems to be well-priced and budget was one consideration that is moving us toward it, but what really impressed us was when we got the sample. In the last year we've seen tons of different products. Everything from Formica (it was tempting!) to all sorts of laminates and woods. In our opinion, this one is rare from the standpoint of actually looking like real wood. (Have to admit I'm a bit confused by what it really is at this point. Their website calls it 'laminated wood' and they don't list it under their 'vinyl' category).


    We did initially price hardwood, but the savings and fade resistance benefits of this product are what's causing us to reconsider. (Our open-plan great room has 20 feet of glass facing west to take advantage of views).


    Yes, the site is beautiful with lot's of charm, so we do want to do it justice with the home. Although we're budget conscious, we are considering consulting with a designer.



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    @dan1888 Thanks for the offer to discuss Dekton. Unfortunately, in your profile I'm not seeing any option to message you.

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    last month

    Hello! We don't think the colors will fight with the style of the kitchen that you are proposing, on the contrary, it would be interesting to contrast some color to the bathroom when the guest come inside, choose wisely the materials though, there's some finishes like concrete and granite that can help you to reach the effect of the reference picture that you send, i don't know if the tiles will give you the look that you're looking for, with the glossy and the square lines in it, or another option is to mix it, the green could be tiles and the other one could be a concrete finish to give it contrast.

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    last month

    Several things!

    First? You're worrying on tile ? With a view directly to POTTY? Can you do this?



    and not this?! 6'6" x what exactly?


    Yes that appears a much better floor tone!

    Were this my home? I'd be all OVER Soapstone or a honed black granite, such as Virginia Mist....Or a plain leathered black any of which will feel organic, and appropriate and modern. I understand Cali anything is different, than the Eastern half of USA....but Dekton? Why?!

    PS with a shallow curb? Yo can run the LVP into that bath

    Okay......you've now scared me!

    Can you please post the entire floor plan?

    The whole thing? Layout/dimensions etc

    BTW....

    Soap stone?

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    Engineered, not LVP



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    @JAN MOYER

    Oh dear! I do understand how it may seem there is a peek-a-boo window right into the toilet! LOL

    However, the window is actually more of a clerestory window, up high on the wall, and only intended to bring light into the room.

    Here is the current and still evolving design:



    The guest bath is 6' 6'" x 8'. All showers throughout will be sloped-floor only, without curbs.

    The bath window is shown just to the right of the patio slider doors here:



    (House colors shown here are not what we will ultimately be using).

    Thank you for the suggestions of soapstone, honed granite and the photos. That soapstone has a nice satin finish to it. I do like the look of plain leathered black granite too. That is a strong possibility for the kitchen.

    Based on the good advice we're gotten here, we're no longer considering Dekton.

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    I Meant, the VIEW into the bath from entry to bath


    !!









    I walk in, I look in....................I SEE Potty!!! Potty first! why?

    this is not good.....

    You're hung up on saturated tile? In this???To highlight the loo?


    You're focused on the wrong thing.Surfaces don't matter until you have layouts that make sense.




    rogerc thanked JAN MOYER
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    My first thought was that you will have all this beautiful tile - and instead of seeing a shower or vanity through the open door, everyone will see the potty!


    I would consider changing the layout as Jan has suggested in her above comments.


    The tiles are very pretty shades of green and blue. Where will you install the blue tile + where will the green tile be?

    rogerc thanked dani_m08
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    agree with putting a pin in materials and making 100% sure the layout is optimized

    rogerc thanked la_la Girl
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    @JAN MOYER (…and dani_m08 and la_la Girl).


    Yes, of course. We're definitely going to change the design to as is in your suggestion sketch!


    With the addition of the tall built-in storage cabinet behind the bath entry door, we could probably go with a very minimal basin, perhaps similar to the one in the tile inspiration photo, so the corner doesn’t look too cramped.


    The drawing I posted above was an early sketch of my own. I should have the new design from architect with all dimensions any day now.

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    @rogerc I don’t have any personal take of any products that are used unless it is utilized for the first time, especially if its ecco friendly. My take on what materials he is proposing to use in his home is a great combo. I have never heard of any stories about chips when comes to Dekton surfaces. Its a first.

    rogerc thanked Larece Associates
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    @JAN MOYER How is this for guest bathroom changes?


    I gave the vanity 28", the toilet 32," and the shower 36".


    Keep in mind, the shower floor will be curb-less and flush with the bathroom floor, which will be sloped to linear drain at left wall.





    This is the toilet:



    Vanity will be something similar to what's in the inspiration photo in my initial post above. Probably an open stand with black metal legs and one shelf.


    Large tiles will be 12"x24". Shower floor will be 1" square.


    Multiforme / Lichene Matt (Green) and Multiforme / Acquario Matt Blue


    https://www.marcacorona.it/en/collections/marca-corona/multiforme/multiforme-lichene/


    https://www.marcacorona.it/en/collections/marca-corona/multiforme/multiforme-salvia/#multiforme-acquario


    Thanks for all your help.

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    @Larece Associates Thank you for the opinion on our materials.


    The blue bathroom you did is very much like the effect we're going for. If we're too fearful of the boldness of the green/blue palette, we might pare it down to one color with some concrete gray. That looks quite nice.

  • PRO
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    : ) Yes , a MUCH better layout! WHEW!

    rogerc thanked JAN MOYER
  • last month

    You need 15" from the center of the lav to the wall, so if you want to center the lav in the vanity, the vanity needs at least 30".

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    @catbuilder Thank you for that. I'll make the adjustment.

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