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Installed these lvp grey floors in our shore house years ago and reno was halted there. Now we are replacing the cabinets, counters, hardware, lighting, paint, trim, and doors. We are thinking of keeping the fireplace to help keep some warmth and hoping to blend the floors in/bring out what warmth they have. They photograph and appear very differently in person depending on the lighting. Doing a banquette in the kitchen.
Thinking neutral white cabinets, but unsure exactly what color. Also looking at a quartz that brings in grey and brown or gold. Maybe champagne sink and hardware? No clue on backsplash. We’re also doing 4 bathrooms that I don’t have the floor in so it’s a lot to take on! Looking for any thoughts, but with everything being done redoing the flooring really isn’t in the budget right now. Also if anyone has inspo pictures that would be greatly appreciated. Very few resemble my floor. It’s coretec Mont Blanc driftwood. Thank you!

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    I personally would not choose anymore gray tones, for anything.

    Get a large area rug for the living room with a creamy beige/tan background, pattern with colors you love.

    As far as the kitchen, coastal colors include sand tones, rather than gray wash.

    'Neutral white' is pretty wide open. think about the undertones of any white.

    https://ruggable.com/products/morris-and-co-montreal-natural-stone-medium-pile-rug?size=8x10&system=rug-sys

  • last year

    Thank you so much for your thoughtful response! I’ll definitely take your advice of leaning into natural coastal colors. I definitely want the decor and textiles to be more organic and mixing lots of textures. I’m wondering if these counters are still pulling too much grey?

  • last year

    they look great. a hint of gray fine, but the sand tone is very elegant.

    I just wouldn't paint the walls a gray tone or the cabinets. You have plenty of gray.

    pastel blues and greens in a muted washed tone. Do you favor silver or gold tones?

    Blacks seem too harsh for a coastal setting. keep it on the soft, light side.

    Have you considered painting the walls and cabinets the same color? including all the trims and doors will make the room feel bigger and more pulled together, less contrast.

  • last year

    Yes definitely no more grey washing I really want to distract from it as much as possible without it looking like I ignored it completely and want to take into consideration the tones. I lean more toward liking the gold tones. I was looking at delta champagne bronze faucet and coordinating hardware. I have Benjamin Moore Chantilly lace in our primary home and it is a great neutral white but am tempted to go slightly more creamy. I just don’t want to make a mistake. Definitely open to painting all the same color!

  • last year

    is BM your paint brand of choice?

    for me, BM Chantilly Lace is too stark for kitchen cabinets,

    Will you change the configuration of the kitchen when you remodel? or just get new cabinets and finishes?

  • PRO
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    This shows warm white cabinets, something like Swiss Coffee or Alabaster, brass faucet and hardware, a warm white subway tiles in a handmade look (slightly uneven glaze for softness), something like Silestone Calacatta Gold for the countertops. A washable runner complements the look. I also suggest you have a counter depth fridge.


  • last year

    Thank you for your input! I have a gorgeous light oak option I’ve seen installed. Unfortunately it’s not just these two rooms it’s the whole house (minus the finished basement and bathrooms) about 1700 square feet of it already installed. Maybe phase two in a few years. There’s really nothing I can take away that would compare to the price so floors will have to wait.

    Kitchen runner is a great idea. We will need to carefully select lots of large rugs that coordinate.

    We’re bringing the cabinets to the ceiling in the same layout except the fridge will be pushed over three inches taking 3 inches off the cabinet next to it to allow room for casing and trim. Right now the fridge is pushed forward as it won’t open all the way with the wall if it is pushed back.

    Alabaster is great on cabinets I’ve seen. I was just worried it would be too warm for the floor but would love if it actually does work well. I’m not set on any one brand for paint.

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    The first thing I would do is admit the gray stripe boo boo and rip the flooring OUT.

    "Now we are replacing the cabinets, counters, hardware, lighting, paint, trim, and doors. We are thinking of keeping the fireplace to help keep some warmth and hoping to blend the floors in/bring out what warmth they have."

    REPLACING... as is? Same layout?

    To throw all that money atop a mistake ? IS a mistake. Huuuuuge . You'll never get enough lipstick on the piggy to compensate. You need to re think "gold/champagne" at the shore as well.

    Show an inspo of your dream kitchen: ) and delay until the flooring is resolved. I'd lose the heavy of the fire as well- fur it out a couple inches, Use drywall to hide most of it, and it doesn't require a raised hearth to eat up floor space.

  • last year

    LVP colors/styles often get retired so just make sure if you want to match floors later you take that into account -


    if it were me, I’d go super simple and lower cost with the counters especially since it sounds like you have a lot of projects happening at once — i would not put in Cambria counters with flooring that needs to be replaced, I would get the floors figured out and then do uber simple laminate counters to help with budget (a simple white could be nice or there are few soapstone look ones that look good) - down the road I’d pull those out, donate for Habitat Restore and upgrade them with what I preferred



  • PRO
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    Those stripy gray floors are the thing that needs changing the most. They were never a good idea, even when they were briefly popular. Things trying to look like natural materials should actually look like natural materials. Or a complete 180 from them. Now, if they were hot pink wood grain, that’s just weird and wonderful enough to work with!

  • last year

    I understand that you installed this flooring, probably with the intent to do more renovations down the road. You made an investment in the flooring, and so you would like to work with what you have. I understand your position, and how it would seem counterintuitive to change the floor.


    But the truth is: the flooring was never the right choice for your space. ( And really, it is not the right choice for mostly any space, so don’t feel bad. ) This grey wood-look flooring is a product of (the now pretty much defunct) grey fad/mania. It was never a good idea... plus, it does not work with your fireplace stone (which is fabulous, btw).


    I did a couple of visuals (with the help of my other half AI :)



    I think this direction would be better.














    It’s LVP - so you don’t have to demo tile, etc. So it’s pretty easy to change to another LVP. And I know that you are concerned about saving money - but if you keep the current LVP, imo, you are totally wasting every penny you spend on everything else.



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    I found this reno for you, same floors, nice mix of warm and cool tones.









    https://www.bestlaminate.com/gallery/beach-house-tour/?srsltid=AfmBOorSYTSbnnZ7el7sOjCUL37u1315hHz0LG0j2JYnHNUV9Pgl2n2o

    More inspo similar floors








    Oceanfront Newport Retreat · More Info


    Open concept family room/kitchen · More Info


    https://www.houzz.com/photos/gray-floor-coastal-family-room-ideas-phbr2-bp~t_720~s_2110~a_1408-15758

  • PRO
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    Nice find @tracefloyd as I'm quite sure the OP doesn't intend on ripping out all the flooring. With a large area rug in the living room, you'll just see the flooring on the perimeter.




  • last year

    I bought tile stickers from Guipp.com because they were cheaper, I didn't need to do any work, and I really liked the result.

    https://guipp-decor.com/



  • PRO
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    No offense but the fireplace clashed with the flooring. Will suggest that you do a German smear technique to tone down the color and texture of the fireplace. It should turn out to be lighter and more white in color. That should go better with the gray flooring. Good luck!

  • last year

    No more gray anywhere. It's actually more affordable to get new cabinets, countertops, etc. than replace the floor so it harmonizes with your fireplace? @freedomplace shows how transforming a floor change would be. If that's not possible, then huge rugs and runners are your only bet.



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    There's always an elephant in a room. Two elephants here, and both deserving an escort out the door : )

  • last year

    Grey find tracefloyd! Thank you! There are issues with the cabinets and counter as well as the 4 bathrooms that make them the priority. We would also prefer to prioritize new trim, doors, stair rails, door and window casings, and paint throughout the entire house. The floors are great quality and in great shape but we are not happy with the color. I see the stripes everyone is referencing which is much more prominent in pictures versus in person. We’re going to take a closer look at the budget with picking specific materials and see if floors are an option to do now. It is worth a lot to not have to match every color tone in counters, cabinets, paint, decor, etc to make it work for this and a potential future floor. The color variation in floor depending on lighting and angle is especially difficult. I appreciate all the suggestions and feedback and welcome anyone else’s opinions or experiences! It’s all been very helpful!

  • PRO
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    "There are issues with the cabinets and counter as well as the 4 bathrooms that make them the priority. We would also prefer to prioritize new trim, doors, stair rails, door and window casings, and paint throughout.................."

    Too much elephant to chew, and not do the FIRST thing first. Do not let your bad flooring decision, further paint you into corners.

    Take something to DELAY, or rue the mess you will need to undo......later.

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    I think we may just have the wrong wall color to make things work well together,

    Almost all of the gray wash or aged wood flooring actually has a pink or violet undertone.

    That means that your neutrals should be taupe (pink/violet undertones) and furnishings should be woods with some red/pink undertones vs yellow.

    Yellow and purple are complements - directly opposite of one another on the color wheel. When the two are both muted/neutral tones they don't work together.

    Look at this blog post from Kylie M -

    https://www.kylieminteriors.ca/how-to-mix-match-and-coordinate-wood-stains-undertones/

    scroll down to the section :COORDINATING WITH VIOLET-TONED WOODS

    Usually the stones on the fireplace have some grayer stones as well as the earthier tones and the wall color you choose can help pull the pinker tones from the fireplace and the flooring.

    If we make the walls a taupe instead of green beige it complements the flooring and works with the fireplace.



    Side by Side with the current wall color you can see how olive the current paint color is - it is clashing with the floor and brought out the orange tones of the fireplace



    You can use neutrals from violet gray through the mid level orange beiges but not yellow beige or green beige, greige or green gray. Blue grays can work but would make things much cooler and are not the best color choice. Wood tones that have red, pink, and pink orange tones work. I have teak, black walnut and natural stained cherry woods with taupe and it works. Anything more yellow and it is not happy.

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    Those floors, are what need to be changed the most, in my opinion.

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    I used SW Natural Linen for a client with very similar floors and it worked beautifully. Just pink enough without going too pink that it wouldn't work with their furnishings. They didn't select the flooring - was used throughout the complex. They also did not get to select the trim/door colors. The complex used Extra White. Not my favorite with Natural Linen, but no one other than me seemed to notice that it was a bit too cool.

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    The one downlight on the fireplace is very warm and making it look more orange. I see the rocks closer to floor level that pick up the bluer lilght from outdoors and the gray in them is very similar to the floor.

    Replace the ceiling light with a cool tone bulb, maybe 4500K to 5000K closer to daylight and it could make a difference.

    Mix warm and cool tones in your decor to tie in the stone and the floors. I also see the purple undertone Jennifer mentioned.



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    The other thing you will want to address is the color of your lighting. When using taupes and pink undertones yellow is the enemy. Lower kelvins will muddy the colors. 4000-5000 k daylight lightbulbs work much better with these colors. I used 5000 k for my own home and for the client with the weathered wood flooring. Some people will say it is blue - but it isn't. It is the color of daylight at 2:00 in the afternoon. Not sunset or morning where it is more yellow or Noon when it is most blue (6500).








  • last year

    of course I am not there to see the room in person, but I would use these colors to start sampling. For me, The stone fireplace calls for a darker paint color for TV wall. and keep the whole house in the same sandtone family to unify.

    I do like the countertop you chose posted above.


  • last year

    Before advising you to start over with the floors I would start by finding out what your favorite colors are. You want to enjoy living in your home, and for each person there are colors that they love and bring them joy.


    I see a lot of hate that happens every 10 years or so when one trend leads to another.

    Builders beige - everyone hated pink undertones. Pink was the enemy.

    Move to the Gray trend - beige was the new enemy

    White - everything with any color was the enemy

    Moving to warmer tones and back to wood - gray is the enemy.


    I don't decorate based on trends. I like to use those colors that bring you joy and then bring neutrals in that make your colors sing in harmony with the neutrals.


    What are those colors that you can't walk past - the painting or bedding that whispers to you "bring me home, I will be your best friend" and you walk away only to come back and look again, and sometimes a third time, and then pick it up and pay for it and never regret the purchase.


    I went to an art show this past weekend with someone I have known for over 50 years. She revealed to me that her favorite color is purple. Her eyes lit up when she saw beautiful paintings, pottery and glassworks that included purple - actually more lavender- soft pastels - , but she didn't buy any of them because they don't go with her home. They recently renovated their kitchen and were told by the designer what was popular and that is what they used. Gray backsplash, white counters with gray veining, gray LVT flooring, white cabinets and Revere Pewter walls. They are now renovating the rest of the house and painting all the rooms Revere Pewter and changing all the carpet to the Gray LVT. Her last color scheme was darker golden beige and navy blues. Revere Pewter is greige. I know this woman well. I have never seen her wear tan or gray greens - always pastel blue, pink, lavender, cream, white. Nothing I would pair with greige (Revere Pewter).


    It is kind of heartbreaking to me that she will never have the home that incorporates the colors that she loves. I did offer to assist them with choosing a color palette, and I know at least 3 people that advised her to have me help, but her husband felt the people at the kitchen design center were "The Experts" and didn't want any other input.



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    True. We used Teal and Peacock in our rustic cabin with the same fake rock fireplace. Unexpected but we love it and it has gone in and out of style several times.

    Commercial designers know what is on HGTV and steer in that direction.

  • last year

    Here’s another picture of the fireplace without the yellow lighting on. The top is shadowed and bottom sides you can see natural light hitting it. We are planning on changing fixtures and bulbs throughout the house. The diagrams and personal experiences will be great reference.

  • last year

    What about Yellow River or summer beach Granite?

    Home Depot has Golden Angelite Porcelain Countertop that might work color wise.

    Another that might work is theta quartzite.


  • last year

    First rule of design is that there can only be one "drama queen" in a room; you've picked it. It's your stripey lvp flooring. Everything else wants to be a supporting player. Other rule of design is that our eye stops at contrast. Usually you want to drag the eyes upward to give the room a feeling of loft and height. Your lvp flooring, with its busy striping, drags the eyes downward. That being the case, you can still design around it. With all the other contrast (dark countertops, dark appliances, dark fireplace hearth) it appears you are trying to "hide" the lvp flooring instead of leaning into it.

    Get white quartz countertops with little to no veining, and white subway tile backsplash that goes all the way up the wall, will cost maybe an extra $500 to take it up the wall, but again, drags your eye upward and away from the floor.

    Your fireplace is brown while your flooring is gray. Need to get a tile that honors both. Get a living room rug (large, say 10'x14') will cover up most of the flooring and then design around the real "drama queen" in your living room, that faux lava rock fireplace. Or better yet, redo the faux lava rock fireplace but don't make it the drama queen. That is still your flooring.

    Obviously, next time, go for little to no contrast (no "tiger stripes") in your flooring to allow you to choose another design element to shine.


  • 4 months ago

    UPDATE
    We took everyone’s advice and demoed the floors. We are replacing with a lighter oak LVP. We like Coretec Farington Oak and are between wood and cream cabinets. Our contractor uses Prime Cabinetry. This is their cream shaker and tawny shaker. This is not the house but it is the same wall color Chantilly lace.

    So question now is which cabinet and would you go with a different or lighter floor?

  • 4 months ago

    I am risk adverse so I'd do the white cabs so I didn't have to worry about wood cabs and LVP not mixing nicely

  • PRO
    4 months ago

    FYI your contractor is not a KD and you need one . An indepedant one will get you the kitchen you need and want then find the cabinet company that can provide what you need .I am happy you are changing those floors for sure , now get the kitchen right so no regrets this time.

  • 4 months ago
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    You really are doing an about face. This is a great example of why jumping to the latest trend isn't usually long lasting. Good for you on the flooring change! You will feel the lift in your homes attitude instantly!! Contrast is good. I would always go WOOD but then yes you need a tish darker flooring. Where you are in the country might influence the longevity of white being cost effective when talking resale value. It's no longer the generally preferred choice it was five years ago. Wood is back baby--except in the south and east where white was always beloved.

  • 4 months ago

    Too funny! I took possession. of my new condo last week and it came with that identical stripey floor. I tried to convince myself to work with what I had, but the floor was so bossy, that IT was driving the bus and not me when it came to upgrading the rest of the place. Once I made the decision to change it out, changing the rest of the place became a whole lot easier.

  • 4 months ago

    What a big change! If it’s what you like better, I assume, then you should find your other decisions are a bit easier rather than continually compensating. You may be able to economize in some areas now because there are more options. A rug size that fits your actual needs rather than camouflage ! Or splurge on something beautiful that now goes with your preferred scheme.
    I really liked what Jennifer said about not changing just because someone ELSE thinks it is dated, wrong color— I prefer warm woods and colors myself, but have seen lovely gray floor rooms decorated well. I think the stripey- ness was a big drawback here.

  • 4 months ago

    Thank you everyone for the feedback! I realized I posted the wrong floor sample. This is the farington oak in two lightings. We ordered a box to try in the house to triple check and see all the planks. Also think we’re going to go with the oak cabinets