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katrinainpa

potential septic nightmare (long)

20 years ago

I hope this is the right forum for posting this potential nightmare. For 6 years we have owned a small 3 br home built in 1941. I'm guessing that the septic system is the same age. Today, the septic pumping guy came out for a routine pumping (4 yrs since the last pumping). After fooling around out there for about 1/2 hour, he came to the house and asked if we had another tank because he couldn't get but 1 or 2 hundred gallons pumped out and, if not, he thought maybe the tank had partially collapsed. He said he looked into the tank with a flashlight and saw alot of rocks. He didn't charge me for what he did today but said he'd send someone else out next week who had more experience with older systems (the owner, I think). Well now I'm worried because last year around this time, I swore to my DH that a 3-4 foot patch of ground in that area had sunk about 6 inches. He claimed that it was always like that. The leach field does not appear to be in trouble (no smells or wetness anywhere - not that I know where the leach field actually is, I'm just making an (un)educated guess)and we haven't had any problems inside the house. I know I might be jumping the gun here, since we haven't had a definitive diagnosis but I'm worried sick that we have a big problem especially given the age of the system. What kind of repair could we be looking at? Does homeowners insurance cover any of it? Anybody else have an older septic system collapse or fail? I'd like reassurance but I'm also a realist.

Comments (6)

  • 20 years ago

    I would wait for the next person to look at it. If the next one says there is a problem, request a visit from the officials who issue permits and do inspections of septic systems. In my area, it is the environmental health dept. The first person is not knowledgeable, but to his credit, he knows and admits it.

  • 20 years ago

    I think it actually costs less to replace the septic tank than the leach field so I guess it could be worse. They also have polyethylene tanks which may or may not be cheaper than concrete tanks.

  • 20 years ago

    Hi again,

    The owner of the septic pumping company called yesterday (didn't come out) and said it sounded to him as if we might have an old three tank septic sysem (common in our town according to him) or a cesspool (because his employee reported seeing rocks in the tank). He suggested we have someone come dig up the ground to find out what we have. He said if we do have the 3 tank system, we need to find the cleanouts or caps so that we can pump those as well. He didn't say what to do if it turned out to be a cesspool. The excavation will run us about $400. We still do not have any problem with our plumbing and no wet spots or smell outside. My husband is inclined to let sleeping dogs lie and do nothing. I think maybe we should have a septic inspector come out and look at it. What do you think?

  • 20 years ago

    Hi, Katrina. I live in a house with septic too and I have been given the runaround by so many companies it would make your head spin. Finally I found two companies that didn't act like the sky was falling. Because our first tank filled up fast (I had it pumped last August), we had to locate our second tank in case it needed pumping too. I found out that instead of digging things up, this is most easily done with a camera put through the first tank. We found a specialized septic plumber who brought the camera out, followed the trail, inspected everything and found everything was in great working order except for one area where the pipe took a turn and it was clogged there, causing the main tank to fill way faster than it should have. It was easily snaked and all is working perfectly again, for $200. And now I know where the second tank is if that ever needs pumping too.I hope your solution is like that because septics can be very expensive. I would definitely try the camera route before having your yard attacked by shovels. And if you find them saying it is an expensive fix, get more than one opinion. I am so glad I did.

  • 20 years ago

    Thanks for the info trubee. The camera makes alot of sense. I'll look in the phone book to see if I can locate a septic plumber and see what they say.

  • 19 years ago

    I have a different potential septic nightmare. We bought a beautiful but run down place in the country. Very little maintenance had been done on the house since it was built in 1972, so we bought it "as is." The roof leaked, the boiler failed, etc., etc., but we've never had a plumbing problem. But we've been here 5 years, so we thought we should have the septic tank drained and cleaned. We got the diagram from the county "code enforcement" office, and it was completely bogus. Not even the house was located where their drawing said it was, much less the septic tank. So we called a septic company to locate the tank and drain it. They found it alright, but the man couldn't open it with his crow bar. He said both tops were frozen in place and had probably never been opened in the 36 years it's been there and would probably require a blow torch. He left and sent us his bill. Nothing more he can do.

    Help! Help! What the heck do I do now?