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Careful what you wish for?

10 years ago
last modified: 10 years ago

Very recently, a poster's dilemma vaporized from Houzz. The query, having to do with pro responses to dilemmas, (perceived as rude at times by the poster), resulted in a lively thread.......and suddenly it was gone.

Mum used to say"Be careful what you wish for, you might just get it" Perhaps so it is with dilemmas. A vast forum of opinion, maybe not the perfect answer, maybe not perfectly worded, perhaps too blunt, or too truthful, or not what a poster was seeking in answer. Occasionally drifting to irrelevant "humor", insane captions and more inane pictures. Even to bad taste, bad advice.....or fabulous advice too bluntly stated, or stated with humor lost on someone or everyone or, or, or.

But do you really want the pc police? Who decides the "correct" content of free speech and equally free opinion? Barring profanity and other offensive slurs to race or religion, should all content be subjected to scrutiny?

No quicker way exists to ruin design, or the commentary on design, than to make absolutely certain it appeals to everyone, all of the time. Yes or no?

Comments (219)

  • 10 years ago

  • 10 years ago

    Hmmm? I thought I read talk at the beginning of not controlling or dictating people's comments ....not an exact quote, but by the Poster. Wouldn't commenting about not liking "lunatic's" comments... be in the same controlling, governing category? Sorry, but ya just can't have it both ways. That starts to sound extremely hypocritical... to me anyway?

    Didn't I hear mention of freedom of speech?

    I cannot stand how things become one-sided.... if "a" writes something and everyone doesn't like it, they are losing their freedom of speech and we are thin skinned. But if "b" writes something it's okay for "a" to find fault with it???

    Am I mistaken.... isn't that the same thing... only reversed? Are some better than others? I never understand these discussions??? News flash... if Houzz wants something gone, that's their business.... we are just here for the free ride. :) And they provide the flag for a reason... again we don't own the site. Beggars can't be choosers. ;)

    Not here to argue... just my view... :) Enjoy your evening everyone ... Jan too! :)

  • 10 years ago
    Sorry, but maybe Jan felt her question was answered and flew the coop.
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  • 10 years ago

    Jan's comment... just to clarify...

    PRO

    JAN MOYER

    @hatetoshop

    Yes, I'm sure you're right it probably was something just like that! But that is my point. What if every time a goofy irrelevant picture appeared, or some pro, any pro, stated bluntly an answer seemingly obvious to the pro but not delivered with finesse, ( barring the obvious items above) it was PC edited?. Should one of us say, or even be able to say "hey, I feel the thread should end, someone deems it offensive, or boring, or off topic, or I just don't like it.....and how slippery is that slope, when an awful lot of good disappears with the "bad". Who defines the bad?

    3 Likes Bookmark on Sunday at 5:53AM

  • 10 years ago

    LOL- I knew we could get back on track;)

  • 10 years ago

    Imagine running a school or job/office like Houzz itself functions....???? It would be more like a zoo! LOL

    I guess sometimes there has to be order, finesse, kindness... we're all people with feelings. Doesn't take much for an intelligent person to represent themselves as intelligent... there are plenty of adjectives to use.... just Google Webster's. ;)

    I'm out... lol promise. :)

  • 10 years ago

    Mmm, spanking AND orders!

  • 10 years ago

    LOL :D D@mn it... Tribble, now you made me break my promise! Ha ha

  • PRO
    10 years ago
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    Yes, "Elvis" here , aka Jan.....left the building! I did so, as I freely admit the "right" of anyone to take over a thread, I'm not the hall and classroom monitor, and the point of the conversation I had begun was "do you want/need a hall monitor?". I'm not in the meme- posting clique. It got tedious and boring and went off the topic, thus I left my own party and I am pretty darn certain I was not missed. It's fine, It's the nature of internet, and just a micro version of society in the flesh, for all its virtues and lack thereof .

    The only problem I see, is that those having all the fun, often have more ''rights" than others. I think a huge problem exists, when the sage advice within a dilemma or any other commentary on any thread is attacked as a spoiler of all the good clean fun, perhaps only because it is not littered with kittens and puppies and bath humor. Interesting too, that that sage advice is rarely hiding behind a screen name, as are the posters of the oh so fun anecdotes.

    The thread that was "yanked", the one that sparked my original question here, was indeed interesting. That's the point. Someone at Houzz decided the party was over? It was too much adult conversation or truth? Or maybe it just wasn't enough middle school fun. It just seems unfortunate.

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  • 10 years ago
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    For some, there are reasons for a screen name. I for one, would be nervous to give too much info...

    I had a bit of a Houzz scare, something a tad uncomfortable.

    Just in case, anyway... in the world, on the web... we are constantly monitored. Freedom is only to an extent... I dare anyone to walk up to the next officer you see and tell him he looks like an azz. Let's see how long you're "free."

  • 10 years ago

    Agreed Zaz....lots of scary stuff on the web. You really never know who you are talking to;)

  • 10 years ago

    Thanks for understanding Rox. :)

  • 10 years ago

    No one bothers with me, lol. Guess they figure I am tooooo crazy lol lol

  • 10 years ago

    YOu know.... anyone who sleeps with a hairdryer .... hahahahaha

  • 10 years ago

    And covets sponges!

  • 10 years ago

    Zaz, this is for you

  • 10 years ago
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    Wait a minute....? Did we just have an Elvis aka Jan siting ????

    As I recall, once Elvis left the building.... he never returned.

    Though, there could have been some lunatics that thought they saw him? LOL :P

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  • PRO
    10 years ago
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    Here's the thing:. It would appear that ALL but three have left the party, so as I said above in an earlier post, pertaining to reasonableness............,

    "Maybe a few folks took over the party, couldn't stop telling jokes that left all the other attendees cold "

    "One could only deduce two things: Either the rest of the attendees have no sense of humor or the jokes were bad jokes ? But if everyone exited and left you and one other laughing, would you find that a reasonable or odd occurrence ?"

    I shall leave you to deduce.

  • 10 years ago

  • PRO
    10 years ago
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    How often does it occur, that when one can't "police" oneself, someone else will? What if Houzz, with enough complaints regarding the sort of oh so fun highjacking that often takes place, and took place here on this thread, were to say: "The only photo's/visuals that may be uploaded for design example or other commentary are those from Houzz"

    What then? Would it not be the end of some great links and examples gleaned from other internet sources? Would it end the "humor" which is perfectly fine in small doses? Would it not be like the stressed homeroom teacher who allowed some joking and raucous behavior, a little steam blowing by his charges before he/she finally slapped the yardstick to the desktop and scared the crap out of all in the room to a deadly SILENCE? Yeah....it might.

    I believe that takes us right back to good ol' grown up reasonableness, does it not? Along with perhaps, the employment of a bit of social radar.

  • 10 years ago

    Jan, I agree with you. There are times humor is used to try to avert mayhem; other times used to further the conversation; and others just because it can be done. I like words but we all know the picture is worth a thousand words so there is merit to that as well. It is my opinion that when something is no longer informative, interesting or fun, it is time for me to stop notifications and move on. Determining what is right and proper for any particular thread at any given time is social radar on high alert. To expect everyone to conform to one idea or practice is contradictory to creativity, the very heart of what this site is.

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    Jan- have you taken this up with Houzz? I am waiting for Houzz to *police me. I am just a child inside this old body, starving for attention in any way I can get it. Please continue to reprimand me in public so I can feel better about myself. Please continue to talk down to me so that I can fully understand how inferior I am to the English language. Please continue to talk in hypothetical scenarios as it gives an outlet to indirect lecturing on social behaviors all while appearing rational and caring. *SLAMMING DOWN THE RULER* Let's just cut the BS and call an ace and ace. You knew when you posted this thread, the so called *lunatics* would come out.......it gave you a chance to have your say. IF you notice the silly lunatic posters are not the hostile posters.

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    "How on earth did that yardstick make its way in there?"

  • 10 years ago

    LOL Roxsolid, I was wondering why the stick was sticky!!! ;)

  • 10 years ago
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    JAN MOYER

    "Here's the thing:. It would appear that ALL but three have left the party, so as I said above in an earlier post, pertaining to reasonableness............,

    "Maybe a few folks took over the party, couldn't stop telling jokes that left all the other attendees cold "

    "One could only deduce two things: Either the rest of the attendees have no sense of humor or the jokes were bad jokes ? But if everyone exited and left you and one other laughing, would you find that a reasonable or odd occurrence ?"

    I shall leave you to deduce."

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    Well Jan, evidently you must like us.... or find something very interesting here.... because you keep coming back? ;) And I see you have likes also, so others are reading.. :)

    Btw, I also agree with you.... I just don't like when people want to have the right to say what they want.... but feel they have the right to tell me how to feel. ???? The world doesn't have the right to tell me to be thick skinned.... that's my business...

  • PRO
    10 years ago

    First, neither my comment, nor the original question posted, were hostile; apologies if you construe as such. Second, a differing of opinion is not hostile, unless it would contain profanity or slur, (apologies for "crap" upfront) and neither the original question or any subsequent post ( mine) contained either one of those unfortunate elements. Third, it would seem even the word "reasonable" is subject to opinion........of all kinds : ) And of course all are entitled to theirs, and once again, assuming the consideration of the obvious ......free to post them. And be gone. Which I shall be, now.

  • 10 years ago
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    Perhaps a cupcake will persuade you to stay? (this pic is Houzz approved) yet gleaned from another site.

  • 10 years ago

    I often have a hard time understanding the joking (so maybe I don't have a sense of humor), but I've found on threads about decorating, they get back on track easily once the OP makes progress or makes a new purchase and pictures it. Sometimes the humor just fills the lull during the times the decorating is on hold or items are on order, etc. Many friendships are formed on Houzz and it's kind of good to keep them going with other talk during slow times. I've had so many long threads (moving from room to room and project to project). Sometimes I'll have things being reupholstered or furniture on order and that can take several weeks. It's fun to stay in touch in the meantime. When I was new to Houzz, I got worked up about all chat threads and such, but I've come to realize, each to their own is a better attitude. With that attitude, I like nearly all Houzzers now, which is nicer for me as well.

  • 10 years ago
    I think Tribble is Chook.
  • 10 years ago

    I'm trying to read and take it all in. So many lectures, so little time...

  • 10 years ago

    I agree, bunnyllg.

  • 10 years ago

    Oh good, this chat thread is back.

  • 10 years ago

    I was surprised it was flagged. I hadn't seen anything worthy of flagging.

  • 10 years ago

    Maybe because someone's name was mentioned?

  • 10 years ago

    Actually no. Any more accusations, Tgb1?

  • 10 years ago

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY ROXSOL.


  • 10 years ago

    U sure Tribble? Cause you sure do sound the same.

  • 10 years ago

    I did not flag the thread. I have just flagged the comment. I was having fun on the thread before it was flagged. Did you flag the thread, plus Zaz thread when it got raunchy? You seem to be the common denominator. I have been researching.

  • 10 years ago

    I put caps for my screenshots that I show all my friends who can't see my cards when they get flagged, and to put on my complaint to Houzz about the malicious flagging of them. Sure glad you got to see my card before it got flagged, Rox.

  • 10 years ago

    Oh, and I've been researching, Chookchook left Houzz.

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    Keep talking to ghosts, Rox.


  • 10 years ago

    For you on your bday? Anything


  • 10 years ago

    I think you are more clever. Did you have a nice birthday?

  • 10 years ago
    Is the party over? It's been fun. Thanks for having me.
  • 10 years ago

    Someone say party!!!!

  • 10 years ago

    Star Trek is on TV!!!

  • 10 years ago