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Smart lightswitch wiring Help

7 years ago

I Live in Ontario (Canada), and in a newly built home (2018). I'm removing a regular 2 way light switch and installing a smart light switch instead (TP link HS200).


The first switch is in the dining room:

I have connected the new light switch neutral wire (white) to the already pigtailed white ones I saw in there, and black/live wires that were connected to the original switch, I pigtailed with the new light switch (

). However the Green/ground wire of the Smart Switch - the instructions say to pigtail with the green wire in the box but I don't see one. Do I simply attach it to the back where the screw is (circled in red

). There's a wire already attached to that screw and I'm unsure if it is a ground wire, and if so, can I simply loosen the screw and connect both grounds to it then tighten it?


The second smart switch is to go into a different light gang. When I opened that one, there's again no green ground wire to pigtail to, but there are empty screws in the back (circled). Do I simply attach the smart switch ground to those? (


)


are all metal boxes grounded in new homes? The first box - I'm unsure if it is metal because it's covered in paint.


Thank you so much for your help!!


Comments (11)

  • 7 years ago

    All grounds in a box are connected together (and to the box). So attaching your new ground can be to any of the other grounds. Ground wires are either green or bare.


    It looks like there may be another bare wire to the right that isn't snipped off (see blue circle in picture below). If there's enough slack, you may be able to just sand off the paint and then use a wirenut to attach your new green wire to that bare one and leave all of the screws as they are. With all that paint in the box, it may be difficult to tell if you get a good metal-to-metal connection if you move anything to do with the screws.



  • 7 years ago

    Canadian plastic boxes usually have a ground strap that reaches up to the yoke mounting screws. This is one of those boxes. You can land a ground wire on any ground terminal that is available. You can only have one wire under the screw so if you need to connect more than one it is admissible to use a single wire under the screw and use a marrette (now I'm talking Canadian, eh?) to joint the wires.

    Hopefully there's not paint under the screw but if there is, as David says, scrape it off.

  • 7 years ago

    Why would anyone spray paint into an electrical box?

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    They spray paint the walls and it gets into the boxes because the devices and plates aren't installed yet and the boxes aren't covered.

  • 7 years ago

    Is there a reason why you can only have 1 wire under the screw? Is it more to avoid a wire becoming loose, or is there any risk/harm?

  • 7 years ago

    It's to avoid a wire from becoming loose which IS a risk/harm.

    The ground wire is a safety feature that isn't used until there's a problem. So you won't know that it's become disconnected until something bad happens.

  • 7 years ago

    Greg is right, further, the terminal in your box is specifically designed for a single wire.


  • 7 years ago

    "the terminal in your box is specifically designed for a single wire."

    I suppose it's technically still a violation, but if the screw is long enough, crimping a properly sized ring terminal onto the wire effectively eliminates any real negative effect on the connection quality when you add another wire to the ground screw.

    I'm not sure I'd advocate it for others, but I wouldn't hesitate to do this myself.

    PS: Crimping works best with stranded wire. With solid wire, you really should solder, too.

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Nobody said anything about ring terminals. We were talking about bare wires under the screw. If it were just a screw, you could put three ring terminals under it.

  • 7 years ago

    > Nobody said anything about ring terminals.

    Not so. I did. :)