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Annual HP Service

4 years ago
last modified: 4 years ago

Some of you are still here that previously helped me twelve years ago select a HP and Oil Furnace combo for my residence in the Maryland Suburbs of DC. Absolutely zero problems since.

EVERY year I have had the Oil Burner Serviced. Most every year I have had the HP serviced.

Never needed R-410R added, everything has checked out fine.

New Oil Company (to me) this year.

Oil Burner checked out fine.

HP "required "5 Refrigerant R-410R-PER LB @ 65.00" Five pounds at $65 per pound = $325 Plus Tax.

When the Techs showed up the first thing that I told them was that both the Furnace and the HP were operating flawlessly as far as heating and cooling , in fact never had ANY problems in twelve years!.

The Factory R-410A initial charge was 15.5 lbs and the indoor and outdoor units are only about twenty or twenty-five feet apart, so the additional Refrigerant added was very little.

Afterwards, when I called and asked the tech, he blew smoke up my kilt and made no sense.

I find it hard to believe that if my unit's charge was five pounds low that it would have even cooled or heated? Also, I think I got ripped off as far as cost.

Can you help me?

Comments (12)

  • 4 years ago

    I would also be suspicious you need to add 5 pounds of refrigerant. Adding that much refrigerant means you have a leak. Did you ask about finding and repairing it? If you are told there is no leak then I suggest you look for a new oil burner service company.

  • 4 years ago

    Thanks, Mike.

    I'm looking already, but thought I would see if the HP could even function while 5 pounds down.

  • 4 years ago

    The heat pump will function, but you heating and cooling performance will be noticeably worse.

    Stax thanked mike_home
  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    It was functioning at 100% - temp control normal and electrical usage normal.

    In fact, when the Techs arrived I specifically told them that and the house was cool on that 85+ degree day.


    PS I did a rough calc of what a full charge or R-410 is in my unit. 15.5 lbs of factory original charge and maybe 10-14 oz of line-set additional charge. (I don't know the Diameter of my Line-set.) Call it 16+ Lbs.

    5 Pounds added means it was down over 30% in the last 12 months. (They had checked it last year.)

  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    One of our air conditioners (2 ton) works fine until it gets about 2.5lbs down and then it doesn't work at all (yes, we have a leak somewhere). They changed the coil and gassed it up, worked fine for one season and then didn't again. Added 2.5lbs and it worked great again. So we have a slow leak somewhere but they can't find it. The system takes about 5lbs, including lineset. They wanted to replace the condenser but I said no, as they wouldn't guarantee that would solve the problem. Then they wanted to replace the lineset but again wouldn't guarantee that was the problem. So I got rid of that company and will continue to add 2.5lbs every year until something else dies and then get a new system. (There's a dearth of reliable, trustworthy HVAC companies where I live - everyone has the same issues).

    How big is your system? 5 lbs of refrigerant leaked out and it seems to be working fine? I would call BS on these guys!

  • 4 years ago

    I read years ago that an A/C can cool fine when refrigerant is down 50%. A small overcharge of refrigerant affects performance much more. This was about car A/C, which was R12 back then.


    Stax, since you’re in the DC area Washington Consumer Checkbook might list a contractor with good ratings serving your vicinity.

    Stax thanked suburbanmd
  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    Yeah, I belong to Checkbook and have been researching.

    Historically, I have used the contractor associated with my Oil Delivery Service - but there is really no need for that connection.

    Checkbook does not list Heating and A/C contractors with Oil delivery separately so it was slowing me down.

    You got a good contractor servicing Montgomery County? lol

  • 4 years ago

    I used and was happy with Davis & Davis for A/C, heat pumps, and gas heat, before I sold my house. They may do oil also.

    Stax thanked suburbanmd
  • 4 years ago

    I didn't read his post. Tnx for the heads up!

  • 4 years ago

    "Didn't watch the video," and "I didn't read his post."

  • PRO
    4 years ago

    Didn't watch the video, but stay away from "leak sealers"!


    Yeah I get so many who think stuff can be fixed with magic. So I decided to waste some of my own money to show people up front how well they "work".