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Hope for urine-stained oak hardwood floors

12 years ago
Ripped out carpet in 1954 home to find pet-stained floors. The Houzz community encouraged me to refinish, but I was worried about the outcome since all that I read said urine stains will not come out of oak flooring. I tried lots of stain removal strategies: ammonia, hydrogen peroxide, bleach, Dawn dishwasher soap, enzyme products, but the stains remained, even after sanding. Decided to refinish anyway with the thought that a "rustic" hardwood floor would be better than recarpeting. We went with a dark stain, Dura Seal Antique Brown, and a matte finish. Would highly recommend company I worked with if you need refinishing in the Riverside, Ca. area.

Comments (88)

  • 12 years ago
    I stand corrected. The really dark stains didn't appear as prevalent in the first photo. Your guys did a nice job.
    rjalx thanked roosterdavis
  • 12 years ago
    to be fair to "mr"roosterdavies,the last set of pictures does show more details,and we all know there are a lot of fake make-over pict out there,so maybe thats why she/he was sceptical, none of the comments can take away from the fact that the floor looks 1000% improved.
    rjalx thanked carole
  • 12 years ago
    No fake photos here, only bad ones! I wish my photos could better show the actual before and after. It was my desire that this post provide some real data for folks faced with a similar situation with their floors. I know that I am fortunate, and I appreciate all of the feedback!
  • PRO
    12 years ago
    Well, it turned out very nice !
    rjalx thanked Studio NOO Design
  • 12 years ago
    rjalx, Thx for the words of encouragement! I was advised that I would need to replace boards in the affected area (which is localized rather than all over the place), but being of a stubborn (and ignorant!) bent, I'm determined to at least give it a go before throwing in the towel.

    I did try the hydrogen peroxide which had absolutely zero effect on the discoloration which is super dark. Believe me, if I can slay, or have somebody else slay, these stains I will be singing from the roof tops! And I so agree that giving valuable info to others in a similar situation is wonderful. Thx for sharing!
  • PRO
    12 years ago
    Finish looks good
    rjalx thanked Comwest Construction
  • 12 years ago
    Your floor turned out beautiful. A good reputable company can do miracles. Congratulations to both you and Xulon. Here are our before and after photos.
  • PRO
    12 years ago
    Your floor looks great. Planks with deep stains can be replaced if you do not want a dark color stain.
  • 12 years ago
    Thanks. We considered the replacement option. However the number of planks that needed to be replaced would have driven the cost up too much for my budget! Gladly, I'm very happy with the dark stain.
  • PRO
    12 years ago
    This is stupendous.....love it...
    rjalx thanked SPACIALISTS ( 3D Rendering and Architectural Viz D
  • 12 years ago
    Beautiful. Any remaining discoloration, adds history to the house.
    rjalx thanked 574steele
  • PRO
    12 years ago
    Looks really wonderful!
    rjalx thanked KBR Design & Build
  • 12 years ago
    Wow, I can't believe the results. Great job.
    rjalx thanked adklady76
  • 12 years ago
    Good for you!

    We have 3 small dogs & candidly they are not free range - because I fear the hardwood could be destroyed by "accidents". It's good to know they could be refinished if necessary.

    We discovered that very dense backed and tightly woven " oriental " area carpets or rugs will not allow penetration to the floor if there are accidents.

    Also, there are now powerful small carpet cleaner machines that deep clean pet stains with special cleaners, using clean water which is captured in a separate well after cleaning. It can also be used on upholstery. Of course, best to apply to any stain as soon as possible!

    Wonderful you were able to reclaim and restore those beautiful wood floors.
  • 12 years ago
    Thanks for the info!
  • 12 years ago
    What a nice outcome. They look brand new. -Riverside is my old my old stomping grounds.
  • 12 years ago
    I hope you've moved on to someplace cooler! Thanks for the comment!
  • PRO
    12 years ago
    That is a very nice job.
  • 12 years ago
    Great job congrats!!
  • PRO
    12 years ago
    Looks wonderful I always use dark floors much richer looking could even darker.glad it worked out .
  • PRO
    12 years ago
    amazing.
  • 12 years ago
    Rjalx, tell me more about the smell... Did your floors smell before the refinishing? And do they have a noticeable smell now? My dog had a horrible urinary infection that has left us with a smelly first floor, and we are wondering if refinishing will be enough or if we have to replace.
  • 12 years ago
    The stains were at least twelve years old and had been covered by carpet for many years. Upon removing the carpet, the house was malodorous, but I think that the smell was more from the carpet pad residue stuck to the floor than from the wood. When I started applying hydrogen peroxide to the wood to bleach the stains, a terrible odor ensued. Likewise when Xulon sanded the floors. But thankfully, there was/is no odor after staining and sealing. I am glad that I did not go through the expense of replacing the wood. Good luck with yours!
  • 12 years ago
    Did the floor smell before you removed the carpet?
  • 12 years ago
    No urine smell before removing the carpet. Only after removal, when I started scraping the carpet pad and working on the stains.
  • 11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago
    Just chiming in because I tried the hydrogen peroxide technique and it actually worked! I made a youtube video so that you folks that want to try it can see the before and after on my floor. We just had all our floors installed so I was REALLY mad when the cat peed in the corner, it changes the color of the wood.
  • PRO
    11 years ago
    I'm so not surprised. This is why you buy a home with good hardwood floors. They can be refinished. This is why you should opt for good quality hardwood flooring when you are renovating or building a new home.
  • 11 years ago
    Fantastic!
  • 11 years ago

    What did you do to control the urine odor? Is it coming through the flooring finish?


  • 11 years ago

    There is zero urine odor now. Before refinishing, and especially while treating the stains with a variety of materials (hydrogen peroxide, bleach, etc.), the urine smell was quite evident. I don't know if treating the worst of the stains helped with eliminating the odor or if it was sealing the floor after staining. But I'm happy that there is no residual odor!


  • 10 years ago

    Hello could you please detail what you did during the process of refinishing the floors? Did u move out for instance?

  • 10 years ago

    After pulling up the carpet, I experimented on the stains on my own for awhile. The furniture was all pretty much in place, and I slept in my own bed. But when the pros came in, they moved all of my furniture to the garage, so I slept at my mother's house for the few days they were working. Thankfully, it was just me in the house and I didn't have to worry about sleeping arrangements for an entire family. The refinishing itself was a pretty fast process–moved furniture out and sanded on Day 1, let me play around with some more stain removal on Day 2 (my request), stained and sealed Day 3, moved furniture back in on Day 4. I think it could be done in just two days if you don't have a lot of stains to work on.

  • 10 years ago
    Great job. The previous owners must have had a pet elephant.
  • PRO
    10 years ago

    They did a fantastic job!

  • PRO
    10 years ago

    Wow! Incredible

  • PRO
    10 years ago

    Rjalx turned my company on to two things during this process. #1 is antique brown stain by Dura Seal. I had used the color many times in the past but had never realized that it seems to be by far the best color for blending (not covering or removing) animal urine stains, that I have come across. I have confirmed this no less than 10 times since we completed her project. #2 Houzz.com! She posted this thread during the process and I have gotten multiple projects and TONS of questions from other contractors as well as home owners. Her allowing us to experiment and her willingness to try our recommendations made this project turn out the way it did. Now there are many other homeowners and contractors that have completed beautiful flooring projects because of this post. Thanks again!

  • 10 years ago

    I'm so happy that I was able to work with Xulon. True creative professionals! And I'm doubly happy that so many people have benefited from the information in the posts.

  • 10 years ago

    Gorgeous job! My sister had a similar problem in the house she is currently living in that is almost 100 years old. The people who lived in it before let their dogs pee all over the place. She said that when they took the carpet and padding up that she almost threw up because of the smell. It took a lot of hard work and tons of cleaning along with having the floors sanded and refinished to get them looking and smelling great!

  • PRO
    10 years ago

    Well done!

  • PRO
    10 years ago

    Good job.

  • 10 years ago

    Beautiful result.

  • PRO
    10 years ago

    Good job.

  • 10 years ago

    Sorry rjalx, if there is urine smell when you "seal" the floor, the odor will eventually come back. All it takes is a few days with relative humidity over 50% and the odor is back. The finish you used is pretty tough stuff, but with several months for it to really harden and a few more month of traffic and temperature changes, cracks though very small will form over the gaps between the boards which will allow small amounts of water vapor to get to the UN-neutralized urine residue (Urea salt) and the odor will return.


    Another point; there is no ammonia in urine of any kind. It is produced as the water evaporates from the raw urine and the uric acid begins to break down into ammonia and urea salt. This is a fine point but important because if the raw urine is removed before it dries there is almost no odor, and what there is is really easy to control or remove. Household chemicals are completely unsuited for urine odor removal. Try OdorXit Concentrate, you will be amazed.

  • 9 years ago

    Rjalx

    Thank you for your post. Your refinished floors look fantastic. Could you tell me if you used regular 3% hydrogen peroxide or stronger? What other products did you use while trying to remove stains and order on your own? What product was used to seal after staining?

  • 9 years ago
    We had a similar situation when we redid the floors in our house about six years ago. The previous homeowner had cleverly hidden the dog pee stains, so we had no idea until our flooring guy told us. He said it was the second worst case he'd ever seen. He also told us the lighter stain we'd wanted was a no-go, and so we moved ahead with the darker brown he recommended. Since then: beautiful dark brown floors and absolutely no smell at all. That said, the stains had been quite old, from the owner before the guy who sold to us. Those poor dogs. Apparently they spent many hours cooped up alone in the house.
  • PRO
    9 years ago

    Nice! Great job!

  • 9 years ago

    Kumer–It has been awhile so I don't remember all the details, but as I wrote in the original post I tried ammonia, hydrogen peroxide, bleach, Dawn dishwasher soap, and some enzyme product (from Home Depot I think). The hydrogen peroxide was 3%, and it seemed to work the best out of the treatments. I used lots of rags with bricks to weight them down to soak up the liquid. As for the seal, please check with Chris at Xulon Floors (see his link in comments above). He mixed up some custom treatment to achieve the matte finish we wanted. And if you're in the Riverside, CA area, I highly recommend his services.

  • 8 years ago

    Great info about this..and the thread on dog vs. cat urine...so I'm considering purchasing a really old house with hardwood flooring. c 1908. Apparently, animals AND HUMANS have been using the floors as a bathroom. Will that make a difference in how/what chemicals to use before sanding and refinishing? thanks!

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    Incredible job! What an inspiration the floors turned out beautifully!

  • 7 years ago
    There must be a reason why this post from 2014 has reappeared. Do you need further suggestions on anything?
    The floors do look gorgeous.