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elgyn

Seeking opinion about potted fir

9 years ago

Greetings
to all,

I have a
potted Christmas fir I bought. It stayed inside for a lil over the month…half
of the time in a colder place, a porch without windows. I waited for so long
cause the weather outside was awful around -10 celsius and I didn’t think its
appropriate to plant it then. When a more mild weather came in February, the
needles were already to starting to fall off. . I watered it every 10
days. As I took it out of the pot, I saw
that the longest root seemed to be severed and the end was starting to get
slippery..probably they severed some of the roots to fit the pot better,
something I didn’t know they do:(

So I wanted
to ask you for your opinion, to be sure not to do the same mistakes again…did I
do anything to contribute to the harm in any way or should I just start buying
trees from another place?

P.S.And could I
help it any way to survive if there is still a slim chance? A seaweed
fertilizer or anything lighter? I plant it in a sunny place, with soil for pine
trees and straws on top to protect the roots from the cold, but it continues to
die, some branches are still green, others are dead:(

Comments (11)

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Hello again,

    About the id-ing...its a european silver fir. I know im far away from most of you, but didnt any european sites that dealt with conifers' problems.

    The fir is planted in the garden, directly, its not in a pot anymore.

    Ill try to get a picture tomorrow and see if there are any decaying roots

    to be cut, if its indeed necessary. But if its already planted wouldnt it be an additional stress? And what about the bald areas where the needles fell of, do i leave them like that or? speaking as a layman of course...

    I feel very bad that its partially my fault that it is dying:( Today i noticed that even some of the upper branches are balding.. I thought that 14 days in my room were not too much and i only made the transitions to a colder room and the roofed porch after that, cause someone said to me that they die if not eased slowly into colder temperatures:( I knew it was too much...tried in the end to use water spray for the low humidity, but i guess it was too late..

    I guess Im done with buying christmas trees in the years to come, no matter how this ends...will instead buy an artificial or decorate one of the spruces that are already in the yard.

    Thank you for taking some of your time to respond to me, I really appreciate it.

  • 9 years ago

    This is how it looks today...very bad:(...Is there any hope, should i take it out to see the roots or leave it that way?


  • 9 years ago

    It's a little early to be certain of anything. Patience is called for.
    Did you water it while it was inside?
    Mike


    elgyn thanked Mike McGarvey
  • 9 years ago

    Looks like a spruce...where's the Fir?

    Johnny

  • 9 years ago

    Mike, Yes...i watered it every 10 days, cause it had a not very big pot and was worried of overwatering it. Now that is outside the soil is very moist from recent rains right after it got planted, so i didnt water it more.

    To Johnny - i think its a silver fir, im not specialist.

  • 9 years ago

    Norway spruce, I reckon.

    +oM

  • 9 years ago

    no.. do not dig it up to look at the roots .... whats done is done

    all you can do.. is wait until bud break ... see which buds are still alive.. and then decide if you want to put it out of your misery ... key words there.. will you be able to live with how ugly it might be ... it would be an experiemnt... and a challenge ...

    you seem pretty adamant about your 10 day SCHEDULE ... trees and conifers.. should be watered.. when they need water... insert finger and find out .... rather than on some schedule ... unless you perfected the schedule with your finger.. and then acted accordingly ...

    i do see a live part .. i doubt it will be fully dead ... but my usual comment is that i would mind not an revival experiment out on the back 4 acres ... but not on a plant.. right out the front door of my castle ... which is a place for a prime specimen ...

    ken


    elgyn thanked ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5
  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    A good soaking right after planting is usually advised to initiate capillary action between the native soil and the rootball media. A couple of rains is only going to do that at the very top of the rootball, especially if the rootball was planted dry.
    A lot of people, when planting a tree, dig a hole only as big as they think they need to to fit the rootball in. Then they fill the narrow crack with soil and pack it by stomping on the rootball, leaving the interaction area relatively unchanged. I'm not saying that's what happened in your case, but it happens more often than not by people not familiar with proper planting methods.
    As Ken says, water when needed, not by some thought up schedule. Conditions change and so should the watering.
    Watch the buds for any change. If they swell, then that branch is alive. No change when other buds are growing, then that branch is dead.
    Good luck.
    Mike


    elgyn thanked Mike McGarvey
  • 9 years ago

    Ken, Alright I wouldnt bother it anymore and wait for any signs of budding. Its on a part that is not frontline on the yard and i sure wouldnt mind to see if this experiment works, after all its my fault. I wasnt adamant on the schedule, just repeated it to Mike...its just what i read about watering, I always checked the soil if it was moist, after 9,10 days it wasnt so much so this schedule seemed fit.

    Mike, Yes i soaked it in water after planting, its what i know at least to eliminate any air pockets and such. And the rains are heavy throughout the entire month the soil is always muddy and soft at the surface, so i think its getting enough water for now.

    Thank you both for the knowledge and your helpful opinions. Ill be sure to check back and write if it revives by new buds.

    All the best to ya=)

  • 9 years ago

    By the green looks of your lawn, you have enough moisture and in good soil.
    I'd make a decision a little bit further down the line as to whether to keep it or not.
    Maybe in a couple of months you can show us a picture of how it's done so far.
    Mike