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What should be direct sown vs transplant?

sunslight
15 years ago

In my particular location, the soil stay cool until late June and my growing seasons is short.

To have any success, just about everything needs to be started indoors, either because of the outdoor soil temperature or the short growing season.

Most plants don't care so much about being started indoors and moved from container to container to garden; but some do not transplant well.

I know, for example, melons and poppies do not like root disturbance.

For them, I start inside in individual peat pots which can be placed in the garden whole, or either in a large enough container so when transplanting, there is little, if any shock. (I even have to transplant beans.)

To have better success when transplanting, does anyone know of lists of both flowers and veggies that do best sown in place?

With that, I will know what needs to be given special attention so as to not disturb their roots.

Comments (7)

  • zen_man
    15 years ago

    Some seeds are very expensive, and I start them inside for that reason alone.

  • v1rt
    15 years ago

    I'm losing hope now on other seeds that I direct sowed. It's been more than 12 days and I have not seen any sprouts yet except the calendulas. Not sure if I should put peat moss on top of all my plain dirt to preserve moisture.

  • morz8 - Washington Coast
    15 years ago

    sunslight, some of the vegetables usually thought best direct sown are carrots, beets, radishes (the edible root types) - among flowers I direct sow in my cool summer, slow to mature climate are nigella, poppies, larkspur, nasturtium.

    v1 - No, don't top dress your seeded areas with straight peat, it will have the opposite effect you are looking for. Once peat has been allowed to dry, it will shed water just like plastic. Water will bead on the surface of dry peat and roll off, to moisten peat dried by wind or sun you almost have to knead the water into it - use it only for applications where you can use it as an amendment mixed into other organic materials.

  • tn_veggie_gardner
    15 years ago

    v1: Sow times on seeds can be way off at times. If they haven't sprouted by 30 days, I might give up, but certainly not at 12. If your worried, start some more in another type of medium, as backups.

  • dicot
    15 years ago

    Don't talk yourself out of certain plants as transplants until you have tried and failed either. I've had exceptionally good beets grown in flats and transplanted and have had some great success with poppies and melons too. Cucumbers are the one plant that seems to grow better when I direct sow, but my germination rates go way down because they need such warm soil.

    Have to agree with Morz8 about peat's water repelling tendencies.

  • sunslight
    Original Author
    15 years ago

    thanks everyone.

    Johnny's has a list of veggies that can be directly sown and those that are usually transplanted, with some plants being on both lists.

    What I hoped to find was a similar list for flowers.

    --I have plenty of peat pots/jiffy 7 that I can use for those plants that don't like root disturbance.

    I would think there is a list somewhere of flowers that do better with not transplanting.

    I realize that it's quite possible to if careful, to successfully transplant even those that say sow in place, do not disturb roots. All my plants are "transplants," but those which don't like root disturbance will be started in peat pots.

    I appreciate your comments. I suppose what I'm going to have to do is go through several seed catalogs and note what they say for the growing of each flower. (ugh)

    Bob

  • burry
    14 years ago

    Have you considered winter sowing? I've found I can start my seeds outside in January or February and they are really ready to go much earlier than if I direct sowed them. I never had much luck with inside sowing, plus I couldn't plant as many seeds.