We just got the PK916 (27" in black) and you're right about the door. It feels like it doesn't close all the way (I'd like a substantial thunk!), but it really does and it makes a great seal. I had the oven up to 475 last week and the door was still cool to the touch and the surrounding area was not any warmer.

I never found the exact floor model to test out the door before we bought it but I'm not sure it would have made that much of a difference. We had already decided on the Profile Advantium so we went ahead with the matching stove.

I opened and closed a few Monogram ovens and they seemed quite sturdy. The metal handles are definitely more solid than the plastic on the Profile models but it wasn't important enough to us to warrant another $400+.

I had a monogram oven is the last house we built, just a year ago as well as the advantium (which I LOVED). from everything I have read (and I hope I am right) the monogram and profile are exactly the same except for the exterior design, inside oven rack and price. I decide to go with the profile as the looks fits my needs in our newest home we are building... but now I am concerned that the handles are PLASTIC!! ??? and the doors are flimsy...

If other owners would be so kind to give thoughts on this, it would be appreciated!

no replies... but in case anyone else is looking at both lines, I will give my own feedback!

Yesterday I stopped and looked at the Profile, and I didn't see where the handle was plastic like or that the door was much different then the monogram.

From posts way back in the past (I've been here a long time), most if not all Monogram appliances are outsourced to other manufacturers. For example, the cooktop is made by DCS.

Check a couple of other threads about the Profile line. FWIW, GE appliances would not be my first choice.

I have the ZET1SMSS oven and love it. It is very solid in feel and I am quite fond of the knobs to set the temperature. I was tired of touchpads but that's a personal choice. The Profile and the Monogram share a number of features. The Monogram won in our house because of the cooking features, rolling racks, the knobs and the appearance. It is a worry when you have to order something you haven't seen and I was able to see mine before ordering. It's very quiet and the already-quiet fan shuts off shortly after the oven is turned off.

We have the 30 inch Monogram single oven, convection and self clean. Also the 36 inch 6 burner rangetop. Love them both. Could not have made a better choice in my opinion. The oven in great on all modes, I love the warming oven feature. The only thing I don't like is that the oven gets a bit hot in self clean mode. Not enough to damage anything around it. I guess it just seems hot to me not having had a self clean oven before. I would buy both of these Monogram products again.

As stated previously, I did own the monogram in my last house we built (just a year ago) and I DID love the appliances, and that's why I am a returning buyer this time.

HOWEVER, I am choosing (I think) the profile line this time around, but I was under the understanding that the ONLY difference was the exterior look and the oven racks. What else am I missing?

Some Monogram appliances like the MWs are basically the same unit as the Profile with minor cosmetic differences but some Monogram appliances like the ranges are completely different and manufactured by other companies. I don't know about the wall ovens but you should do some more research - applianceadvisor.com is a good starting point - to see who acutally manufactures the Monogram wall ovens.

this particular wall oven is a new chassis designed and built by GE themselves, the basic can structure is shared with the GE profile and even some GE branded items but that's where the similarities end. Electronics differ pretty tremendously from profile to monogram. For reference any unit GE has with an M towards the end and measuring 4.4cf(i think) is based off this platform.

I was looking at the Profile & Monogram ovens this week. One of the differences I noticed was that the broiler elements were way different. The Monogram has an 8 pass configuration, while the Profile was much smaller.

The Monogram has Bake Wattage of 2700W. It is higher than the Profile PT920SMSS which has 2100W. Seems like that alone is a significant differnce.

Just installed my Monogram, haven't used it yet. The roll-out racks were too good to pass up.

There are some differences between the Monogram and Profile models mentioned above. the Monogram has the following:

ZET1 is a 30" wide oven while the PK916 is a 27" oven. PT916 is a 30".
ZET1 has electronic dial controls while the PK916 has glass touch controls.
ZET1 has full extension AND self clean racks
ZET1 has two light columns with 3 halogen lights each..note these serve as the heat source for the Proof mode. Profile has a single halogen light.
ZET1 has 6 heating elements (2 bake elements, 2 convection elements and 2 broil elements). 3 total elements in the Profile.
Faster preheat times on Monogram.

On another note, while select products are sourced from other suppliers, most Monogram products are made by Monogram. The ZET1 wall ovens are made by Monogram.

I hope this helps.

Monogram has a better reputation for service than the Profile,too. I used my oven (above) today for the first time to bake a batch of cookies. Nice.

Do not assume the Profile and Monograms have different "insides." I researched this and discovered that in most cases the only differences b/w Profiles and Monograms is cosmetic...you pay the extra $$ for the look and reputation. GE confirmed this regarding the Trivection double oven. In the case of the Trivection oven, Monograms also come w/a roasting pan (like all used to) while the Profiles do not.

As to service...in the past 12.5 years we needed service only a few times (DW & refrigerator) and had no problems...they were prompt, courteous, & knew what they were doing.

We were so pleased w/our Profile appliances that we bought in 1995, that we purchased mostly Profile again for the remodel.

KA DW, Sharp MW drawer, & VAH hood are the only non-GE Profile appliances. Our refrigerator, double ovens, cooktop, and warming drawer are all GE Profile.

Is the cooling fan (not the convection fan) noisy like it is on the Cafe ovens ? One poster said the cafe cooling fan for the electronics sounds as loud as a microwave fan. Noisy appliances drive my wife nuts. Your response would be most welcome.

Our kitchen is not done yet so I cannot attest to the noise of the cooling fan. From what I've read, some say yes it's noisy others say no, that they can hardly tell it's on.

I recommend you do a search on this topic. But, use the search box on the bottom of the page with the list of threads, not the top box.

The fan noise is so subjective. It drove my husband nuts -- he was constantly propping the door to turn it off.

Did it bother me -- no. I certainly could hear it, but it didn't grate on me for whatever reason. It did seem to run for a ridiculously long time.

The Monogram ZET1's fans are quiet, IMO, as far as oven fans go.

Yes the Monogram ZET1's fan is wonderfully quiet. LOVE the oven--door is not flimsy at all.