Finalizing cabinets, P&F or Medallion -- frameless?

9 years ago

We've finalized our new kitchen layout, and selected all the appliances. Now we just need to finalize the cabinets.

We want the most basic Shaker style and all-plywood construction, with stained solid wood frame and front. Our KD carries P&F and Medallion. She is great to work with, and we want to stick with her.

We initially wanted P&F flush-inset, and changed to P&F full-overlay to cut cost. The quote was $22K for P&F flush-inset wall cabinets and P&F full-overlay base cabinets. We want to stay within $20K (less is better), so for comparison, our KD is getting a quote for Medallion Gold full-overlay with the upgrade to plywood boxes.

Now that we read more about cabinets, we start to think frameless might be more functional, because the (horizontal) stile between two drawers eats up quite a bit of usable space. On the other hand, my husband thinks that inset framed cabinets probably look better than frameless. Hmm...how do we choose? For flush inset, we probably should go with P&F, as some Medallion inset cabinets we saw sit less square than P&F.

Does P&F or Medallion make frameless cabinets? Where could I find more information about it? I checked the door styles page on P&F and Medallion websites, and didn't find anything remotely similar to the word "frameless" or "full access". Maybe there's another name that I am unaware of?

Thank you for reading. So far the cabinets seem to be the most difficult decision to make. We've been going back and forth many times..

This post was edited by ILoveCookie on Mon, Aug 25, 14 at 13:58

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scrappy25
9 years ago
I have been working with Dutchwood, a custom maker, with inset cabinet style. We are keeping the rails (which is what I think you mean by "stile") between the topmost drawer and the doors/lower drawer banks in the bases but eliminating intermediate rails on the lower drawer banks (the ones below the "cutlery" drawer). We also combined cabinets, both upper and lower, to make cabinets as wide as 57 inches, so that only a single 2 inch stile would separate the drawer openings rather than a 2 inch stile on each cabinet (which would make 4 inches between drawer openings. This allows wider drawers. The combined 48 inch upper cabinet is completely open internally despite having 3 doors. Changes like this in framed cabinets allow some recovery of the storage space that might otherwise be lost and might even almost equal the space found in the frameless cabinets.
ILoveCookie
Original Author
9 years ago
Thank you for the information, scrappy. I looked up the terminology -- and you are correct -- they are called the rails (horizontal rails, vertical stiles).

If P&F or Medallion could eliminate the intermediate rails from the face frame, it would be great! Does anyone know about this?

I just found out the P&F frameless line is called Medley. I couldn't find much information about it. Does anyone know anything about it?

Here is a link that might be useful: {{!gwi}}

This post was edited by ILoveCookie on Mon, Aug 25, 14 at 15:26
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ardcp
9 years ago
i know that medallion is the same parent as the frameless line at HD. the stain colors are the same so you could check that out. ultracraft is another frameless line i have seen mentioned here on gw as well.
we have medallion silverline but our kd also sold ultracraft
SoJersyLife
9 years ago
Beware Medallion does not honor their warranty! We purchased $18,000 of cabinets from them. Not one single cabinet out of the box is good. Open miters on every door & drawer front, cracks all over the place gaps inside the cabinets, and the stacked cabinets don't match up at all. The range hood is cracked and scratched so badly we didn't even take it out of the box all the way. They are only offering us $5,000 credit towards a new set of cabinets. #medallionfailsoncraftmanship