Unfortunately, if the neighbor is acting like this, they have no respect for you. You need to be assertive, and they won't like it. I have lived in my house for 10 years. The neighbor man began mowing into our yard by 20 feet. Easy to see where the property line lay due to our sprinklers being in a row. He mowed into our yard past the sprinklers lining the back yard! Why? who knows. When my husband asked the neighbor to stop, the wife's immediate response was to say "$!!@@@YOU! Yea, they cared. My husband found one stake, the other was missing. Oh, yea, lots has happened since as they haven't worked in over 10 years and are only in their 40's. They have tried to convince some neighbors that WE only care about property lines. Each time a house sells and someone new comes in, there the wife goes, trying to manipulate. We both work hard and will not be bullied by low level folks. Get a survey. Your neighbor will not like it. WHO CARES? It shouldn't be this way, but it is.

Hello everyone, I read your comments. I feel bad for these people to not solve problem over respect property. I am in the same boat. My neighbor T and I had peace and no problem for 16 years until T started his business welding on his driveway outside. It was abrasive and duct emission from his vehicle metal. He ignored two state rules and have no permit for business. Anyway, sandblast and ash spread out in the air, went over the fence to land my vegetable garden and harmed them. I washed tomatoes and ate it but ash into mouth...it was burned. (now the garden cannot grow...due sandblast is on soil...soil needs to be replaced. soil is expensive. I am aware about nuisance illegal. T doesn't care). I tried to talk to T but he was mean, angry and yelled at me several times. I called the police and one problem is the police do nothing and allowed him to use. I put the sheets on the chain fence to protect my garden. T was mean, angry and yelled. He said get sheets off and grape vine, the chain fence belongs to him. I stepped back. Sad. I bought the wood fence and it stands on his property to private and block his view my property. He put his solar lamps under the chain fence on my property without permission. My sister in law and I asked him to remove his solar lamps. He refused. I took solar lamps (not all) so I thought I have rights on my own property but I am wrong. T called police and wanted to arrest me for steal and trespass. T told police that 20 inches from chain fence on my side is belonging to him. He don't have survey proof. I have survey proof. The police don't care so I got violation ticket. T don't have survey proof and refused to pay full or half for hire surveyor. I cannot afford to hire surveyor alone. It is expensive. Anyway there is no survey marker or locate. I called a county surveyor and I learned that the marker or locate is under T's garage and new chain fence installed without proper property. the marker is six feet from property line...look like took part of property. T is controlling everything. Now, I do best to leave T alone and don't do anything with the chain fence or part property and him. His solar lamps are still there on my property. I will hire a surveyor to find property line and want it to be alone without argue. The last picture that left side is T's property. right side is my property. T told police that 20 inches from the chain fence (between the chain fence and the wood fence...wood fence stands on his property, not my property).

Yep ...we have vindictive new neighbors....they feel our red cedars will over take their yard...how stupid this is...look

I enjoyed reading all your posts. I rent my home from a friend who lives out of state. His family has own their home sine the 60's. The farmland adjacent to his property was developed and their now a house next door. Privacy/property line evergreens were planted by the builder alone the side yard shortly after the house was built. There are permanent cement property markers in place that clearly define the property line. Just last week she came over into my yard with a wheelbarrow and started picking up branches from under the evergreens which at this point have grown over the property line. Next she had a man start placing green metal fence stakes in the ground on my side yard just beyond the evergreens. I was not policing the situation and wasn't 100% sure of the property lines were at the time. She's a real estate lawyer and we are on good terms, so I trusted she was doing the right thing. Next I heard her yell "Do you mind if I come out a little over the property line because the trees have grown over it.?" I said "Sure", but now I realize, as a renter, I'm not in the position to give her permission. As it happens, the evergreens were not planted straight along the property line. Nearest to the street they start about 18" inside the line on her side but as they go back they move closer toward the property line and are only inches away from the property marker. She began at that marker and bowed out the fence stakes about 3' on to my property and put flimsy deer netting to the stakes and ran brown twine halfway down the netting from one end to the other. At the very bottom she folded the netting over and pinned it into the ground so that an additional 12" of netting continues inward on my property. My landlord and friend is furious and sent her a message to remove immediately. It looks terrible and the landscapers can't mow the grass in or around the fenced. After doing some investigation, the only way she can fence in the evergreens would be to trim all the branches on my side and place the fence and netting right up against the trees so as not to encroached. She has not made a move to remove it . Do you think I can remove it since it's legally on "my" property and not a permanent fence. ( "my" meaning "my landlord's") She clearly took advantage of my ignorance in this situation. People suck....

Fences make for good neighbors..my lawyer said put up a fence..

He had to get a surveyor to prove me wrong.

He lost.

Repeat & expansion of previous comment.

Include the clause "buyer will order, and pay costs of, full licensed land survey. This to include the marking of corners with re-bar driven at lease 30 inches into the ground". After closing, mark the bars with orange paint and neverremove them. Take photos (lots) that show the location of the corners in relation to immovable objects (house / trees) such that "accidental" removal by a nasty adjoining landowner can be prosecuted.

Plant some barberry the kids will only go through once and put some huge boulders to block the car.I do not see ant pics of your property except for a patch of grass so I have no idea of any of the other issues .

I feel for you. My former neighbor (I moved away) emptied his above ground pool into my yard (!) and shot off fireworks over my (dry) backyard. #*sshole Re the water, I re-directed their hose back onto their property. but it still created rilling. grateful the fireworks did not start a fire, but man, talk about poor neighbors.

If you had the land surveyed, that was expensive. No one should be able to move a legitimate survey marker. It needs to be more than a flag. Perhaps your neighbor wasn't aware you had a professional come out and survey? And of course I believe the old adage, good fences make for good neighbors.

We have bad neighbors and had a privacy fence installed 12 to 18 inches inside our property line. The neighbors are now using that space on their side of the fence. They have outdoor furniture pushed up to our fence, which is 12 to 18 inches of our property. We’re looking at running a rope connecting our stakes from when we had the land surveyed. Any other ideas?

Was there a reason why the fence was installed so deep inside your property? Since the fence is already up, you could plant evergreen trees outside the fence

Is the fenced area being used for animals or small children to play? If so, neighbor might actually need a heads up to reset the fence to keep animal or children from getting hurt -- but only a couple of good weather days

Not a lawyer but if I were the renter in this situation, this is how I'd view the situation:

Would tell the neighbor that you are a renter and when the owner found out about the fence, the owner indicated in no uncertain terms the fence must be moved. Explain that since you are the renter, you have a responsibility to maintain the yard in a way acceptable to the owner so if it isn't moved within, you must take it down.

Explain to the neighbor that you wanted to give the neighbor the chance to move the fence in the way protects the fencing rather than you having to just jerk it up and put it in a pile. Be clear about the time line. First clear day after (specific date) you have an obligation to remove it.

It sounds like the kind of mesh fencing that is used to keep out deer to protect spring buds and/or summer veggies. It sounds like a temporary fence that now it needs to be moved.

Don't leave it. You do have an obligation to maintain the yard of the home you rent unless a contract says otherwise. The property owner could decide not to rent to you if you don't.

You could offer to help hold one end of the fence to keep it from getting tangled as the neighbor takes it down to move it off your landlord's property ... IF you really want to do -- so but if you do, then only help take it down so it can be moved beyond the property line -- don't help put it back up ... just in case it gets put up on the wrong side of the property line again.

Some states have laws that if you use a property for a specific amount of time uncontested, you can claim the rights to the property. You don't want to get into the middle of a court fight, especially since you could end up with both property owner and neighbor turning on you because of that "permission" you gave.

We have bad neighbors and had a privacy fence installed 12 to 18 inches inside our property line. The neighbors are now using that space on their side of the fence. They have outdoor furniture pushed up to our fence, which is 12 to 18 inches of our property. We’re looking at running a rope connecting our stakes from when we had the land surveyed. Any other ideas?

We had the fence installed at least a foot inside the property line so we could access the back side of the fence and keep the neighbors away from the fence. We now may need to string the rope among the property stakes to remind them to stay away from our fence. They also have plywood and building supplies leaning against it.

Put a fence. Tell them to suck it

Yeah but what about a property survey. You wanna at lease make sure your property is surveyed before you put an fence up if you don't you might have to tear it down over issues with your neighbors. Those land surveys are expensive. One surveyor to do our four corners wanted $ 2500 we can't afford that and pay the taxes too. after the city pulled up our front corner stake when they were putting our neighbors on sewer they never replaced it ether. Then some guy behind us pulled up our two back property stakes then went down to the county and redrew a line on the back of our property to steal 30' off the back of our property. My Dad was going to kill him my mom had to hold him back. We had to hire an attorney to tell us how much feet we have. So its not that simple to put up a fence you want to at have your property surveyed before you even attempt to put a fence up otherwise you will have nothing but fights and disgreements with your neighbors.

Thank you but we had the land surveyed and built the fence. We built it 18 inches inside our property line so we can access the backside without stepping onto their property. However, the neighbors have now encroached on that 18 in. They’ve put patio furniture right up against our fence and after bringing it to their attention they moved it for one day and now it’s back. Someone suggested running a rope along the stakes to remind them of the property line. They’re very inconsiderate and disrespectful people. Any ideas? We thought the fence would solve our problems! Thank you.

I would be very tempted to tell them that anything they leave on my property is mine. Then put it in the trash.

Plant trees or scrubs along that side so they can't try to claim that 18'' of your property. There's an old sane ''Fences make good neighbors'' what a crock of bullshit. All it does is ''make enemies with your neighbors.'' you could explain to your neighbors why you left 18'' for a fence maintenance path so you wouldn't have to walk on there property to maintain the fence.

Believe me, we’d love to do that! The problem is that the guy is volatile. He’s unreasonable and not the least bit friendly. He had someone bring in dirt for his new front lawn and the dirt was dumped on our property stakes and buried them. They said they’d replace them and never did.

I would plant evergreen trees or bushes behind the fence so nothing cold be propped against your fence. It's unfortunate when there are neighbors who cannot use common sense

What about get the police talk to him about it. You have to be careful about that would probably piss him off and he might do something in revenge. If he is unfriendly you could tell him maybe he should move if he cannot get along with the neighborhood.

You might have to have the police talk to him if he unfriendly. You tried everything thing with a guy like that you can't reason with him.

A hedge is another idea. A prickly one. I wouldn't be too fussed about weeds growing under it, either. It will look like it's on their property.

Boy, this has been going in for 5 years! I would get the lawyer to send them a letter now. it's not worth the verbal confrontation, but time will slip by until he can claim legal rights to it.

A prickly hedge sounds good or maybe poison ivy! 😂

CES Are you still having a problem?

In some states if you leave a neighbor's fence on your property unchallenged for a time (7 years in my home state, I believe) Your neighbor likely has a valid claim to your property.

If this issue is not yet resolved, it needs to be resolved sooner rather than later -- before it is too late.

Edit: Found that it has been resolved. Not sure why the post popped up again.

"Hi guys! Thanks to everyone responding and sharing their stories. I thought my neighbors were bad , but it's clear there are worse neighbors than mine. I would have love to share a clearer picture, but I didn't want to give of location. Especially since I've actually seen some of my neighbors post on Houzz(small world). Just an update: I had my survey done and we were right all along. My neighbor came home and saw the surveyor and tried to be very noisy and inquiring. I dismissed him because I felt that the reason I I was paying for this survey again is bc he moved my original. If he needs clarification on the survey he can pay for a survey to be done. Btw, he challenged the survey after it was done. I figured that would happen. So he did ended up paying for a surve "

Stinging nettle plants all along your property line. You could also plant blackbarry bushes those thorns hurt. You will have to keep them pruned they really take over I'll have blackbarry vines growing every were. Even over the top of the fence. Your neighbor won't want to mess around your fence anymore wild blackbarrys grow up to 13' ft tall and take over a yard if you let it grow without pruning. But you will have delicious barrys to put on your cereal or for making desserts.

I heard of that 7 years he can claim it if he maintains it. Maybe its not just a good idea to leave 18'' of space there if he can claim that 18'' strip of property. Don't let your rotten neighbor know that he'll take full advantage of it.

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Not a lawyer. These are my thoughts:

Covering property stakes with a mound of dirt sounds deliberate. He was probably claiming where it was dumped as all his and it may be that your neighbor has already used digging up the dirt as a cover for digging up the pins marking the lot.

Invest in some rebar stakes and a heavy hammer.

Take photographs of the pile of dirt or where he dug it up -- and all of the property line as it now looks.

Find your plat and if your property lines are straight, dig if you must but find the corner pins and take photographs from different points so you can locate the point in a picture. If you're sure the pin has not been moved by the neighbor to his advantage -- when you are sure of the place where a pin belongs, hammer the rebar deep into the soil at that point.

If you cannot find the pins ( IPF -- iron pin found; IPS iron pin set), or if you are at all uncertain the pins are still in their correct location, DO pay for a surveyor to read the plat and find them for you while you have the hammer and rebar at the ready. If the plat is on record or if you decide to file it on record at the courthouse, let your neighbor pay the courthouse for a copy -- you are not required to give him one.

Even if fences are not allowed, mark your turf -- or, better yet, have the surveyor mark the pins, this time with rebar instead of an easily removed nail. You could use plastic coated metal wire from rebar stake to rebar stake and paint the property line on the ground to mark your turf. Do that initially and then create a permanent border by building a fence and/or planting shrubs. Claim what's yours now or you may not be able to later.

A fence to the extent possible would also be a good idea but if they're not allowed, Pyracantha bushes would make a good prickly shrub if they'll survive/thrive where you are. Holly bushes are also prickly .

Read back through the thread. It was resolved.

I had similar issues with one of my neighbours. They actually caused damage to my property and did not care. I tried to be neighbourly but nothing worked. I just left them alone. This was difficult but I did it. I had the damage repaired at my expense. It is really a difficult situation. They eventually moved. I do not have any suggestions but wanted to let you know that this situation unfortunately happens to people.

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Wouldn't wish poison ivy on even a distant neighbor -- even the one I intensely dislike ... maybe only because that stuff spreads and I don't want it coming back my way. The vines are coming up the hill from a closer neighbor's land -- even thriving in the shade -- seeking sunlight at the top of the hill. We try to be diligent to have the mower discharge that stuff back down the hill from whence it came ... and somehow it still gets spread and needs to be killed.

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... on the side of the road by their property on trash pick up day -- if there is one. Not every city or county has a regular pick up day scheduled. Some you must call and I'd not make that call.

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Y'all I read back through the thread and issue appears to have been resolved w/new survey:

" Hi guys! Thanks to everyone responding and sharing their stories. I thought my neighbors were bad , but it's clear there are worse neighbors than mine. I would have love to share a clearer picture, but I didn't want to give of location. Especially since I've actually seen some of my neighbors post on Houzz(small world). Just an update: I had my survey done and we were right all along. My neighbor came home and saw the surveyor and tried to be very noisy and inquiring. I dismissed him because I felt that the reason I I was paying for this survey again is bc he moved my original. If he needs clarification on the survey he can pay for a survey to be done. Btw, he challenged the survey after it was done. I figured that would happen. So he did ended up paying for a survey."

CES Well done.

Well done Sue. Enjoy your home.

My next door neighbours told me yesterday that they are moving in the spring. They've lived here since 1982, and we've been here since 1989. I told them how much I appreciated the fact that we've always seen eye to eye on things like the fence etc.

We went from having the best next door neighbors to the absolute worst- these are the neighbors from hell who have exhibited behavior far more egregious than anything I’ve read in this thread. They ripped out a portion of our fence, installed theirs more than 5 feet onto our property, and refused to move it. So we got a new survey and markers placed. They screamed and cursed at our surveyor, repeatedly ripped out our property markers, reinstalled a fence on our property, repeatedly ran into our fence with their car, and they have been continuously throwing sharp broken glass into our backyard. They have been blatantly trespassing over the past ten years and poured chemicals on bamboo we planted after they cut down some of our trees. They intentionally trapped a baby deer in their yard, separated from its mother and were clearly trying to starve it. Even the town officers and police have said they are crazy, but there is nothing we can do except take them to court.

Electrified razor wire fence.

You gotta be careful it might be a good reason for your neighbor to bring a lawsuit on you if they get themselves hurt. I understand how you may feel but anymore everyone now days is sue happy they will use that as an excuse to bring charges on you. Its like you can't protect your own property from sue happy people because the law might favor them instead of you.

mariacz Hope the baby dear issue and property line issues were resolved . If you ever again see an abused or neglected animal, report it to the nearest animal shelter or ASPCA.

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Gient bolders ,great big ass 200 pound ROCKS ,WOULDNT BE ABLE TO MOVE THEM, CANT PARK ON THEM, PUT THEM CLOSE ENOUGH TOGETHER WITH SCATTERED SMALLER 50 POUNDERS AND THEY CANT MOW IT. it will cost a bit , but i beleive it will be the you will need to spend to get your point across.i doubt they would be willing to pay to have them removed. you cant move them your self, dig a bit of a trench 2 feet deep, and how ever wide is , once the crain lowers them in the trench thats it, they would have to pay just as much to remove them as you paid to put them in. it will cost a bit, but you wont spend anymore money or time trying to get your point across .wont be able to roll them out of a ditch aint that a '"B ?*#TCH, EGNORE MY PREVIOUS COMMENT I MENT TO PUT PIISION IVEY.going to check just to see how much a bolder would cost.

I got a kick out of reading this. I live in a beach community and it's really difficult to do anything on a grand scale with landscaping due to being on less than a .5 acre. I respect the property lines and think about what I do accordingly. I remember when I was looking for houses and visited one with a neighbor from the start giving a guilt trip that his son plays ball in what would be MY yard lol! So I get family members right away? That was outrageous to ask when I was LOOKING at the house! Hey man, buy another house with the appropriate property if you want/need that! I also am very respectful of neighbors and planting trees, etc. I don't know why people are rude!

@CES How did you resolve this?

My neighbor moved in and I offered to show them where the line is and we agreed. Ok I have been living in t here for 3 years before moved in. We even have a metal spike in the ground to prove where the property is. They had a "surveyor" come out and to find out where their land starts it makes since to know where mine is . Ok I go down and talk to the surveyor and he refuses to believe that I have a metal pike in my yard. He says you don't have one or I would not be here.. so instead of putting the property sticks around the yard the only place there is sticks is along my property up against my garage. My husband insist that we have no proof of a survey being done. I reminded him that one was done we just found one corner. My neighbors property runs along 5 property's. Mine, the house next door and other 2 properties on the other side of me and on the other side of our neighbors is a new neighbor, they get along with them but have never said hi to us ever. My husband and I are going to the police about this. After they got their survey done . The guy put his arrow target up and started shooting toward our house. With pointing the arrow to our window and the shooting the target. We think the neighbors are mentally ill and have never been around people.

I have a neighbor who comes onto my property to pick the fruit off my tree. She also comes onto our property with her grand kids to go in the back yard to see the stream that runs through our yard. I would not mind if she did this, if she would only ask, and act less entitled. On top of this, Her satellite dish post is over the boundary line and on our property. She should have had it mounted on her roof top and not on our property, and without our consent. I do not understand why her needs are so important that she feels respecting boundaries and us are irrelevant. Why are people like that?

I have major Boundary and Survey issues myself.

I bought house in 2001/2002 and my neighbor has been there since 1987. He bought a rehab project for dirt cheap and spent 25 yrs rehabbing during, while and after his marriage and divorce. With divorce came a "pay off" to her so they rehabbed to bring up value and she left a year later. Lol (planned maybe lol)

Anyways so when they moved in that was 3 homeowners ago in my house (me #3). Owner #1 (1971-97) did a tremendous amount of work on the house. Inside and out. I assume most before neighbor came in 1987. Owner #1 payed to have a railroad tie garden fence put in that encroached 6ft onto their property. This particular "garden" is a slanted Hill and faces my property and ultimately is my maintain "convenience" more so than theirs for multiple reasons. It's a hill and again faces my yard and attaches to my garden. (Just enlarged it) this property "line" is "degrees" so goes from 6ft to 1ft over 20ft in the garden however there is another 5ft of "grass" now all "weeds" (in last 10yrs). When we bought owner #2 said here's the line that included all mentioned above. She pointed from street all the way up to top "corner pin" but that included all this encroached "abandoned" property. We never did a survey and none was actually on file for this property at time of sale. So we went off "picture" of towns "picture". My property is a funky looking arrow. I own behind both neighbors and goes out to a point. Again "degrees". Neighbor has been playing on my property for years. Hunting, deer stand and now additional "farming" for his farm. I heard a strange tractor noise decided to take a look. He screamed at me calling me all sorts of vial names so bad I could have had him arrested. I just turned around and walked away. We both called surveyor's who came within 48hrs of one another. Turned out he owned all that "straight" line from street to corner pin I previously explained. So now it's 2012 and he confronted my hubby says "I'm using your property and your using mine." Moral is now I'm trying to sell and he's threatening potential buyers they won't have a driveway because the "entrance" is on his property. This driveway has been there 90+ years and realistically just can't be moved. My Mailbox, town drainage and a telephone pole are all an issue right there beside the driveway next to one another. SO Who's moving all this ?? To go on opposite side of "pole" would be a death trap (that street "point" is at a nasty bend and they drive 50+mph so best case is BOOM 💥) but that isn't the only safety issue. So would my barn. It's structurally sound and was placed at erection in 1925 and it's now 2021. To move all that soil and to have car "movement" may impact the compacted soil. This leading to the barn shifting and moving and even possibly over years the constant maintenance of concrete cracking and eventually would cause walls to shift and the collapse and demise of the structure.

So I'm faced with an ass*hole that now after all his years 1987 and even knowing we both officially "knew" encroached "objects". They are all there and fully present on OUR surveys. So he wants to take back ownership after almost 100yrs and hes in his home 34yrs and went thru 3owners in this home. It was never an issue and now he wants to be a douche*bag ??

I know if taking to court he'd loose. But I want to sell and move on after 30yrs. I hate the house and have been out of it for 2yrs already.

Any suggestions I can get him to quit chasing off my buyers ?? I don't have a problem helping the buyer "win" this because believe me I did my research and know more than any "buyer" will ever search buying a property.

.I guess there is/was a lesson here and I know I learned several. So take heed in this for your own future sells/buys but definitely any buys you or your family will endure/invest in.

Thank you in advance !!

Wish me luck 🤞

https://www.stimmel-law.com/en/articles/prescriptive-easements-obtaining-rights-land-use

" Is the agreement beween ex and neighbor stand as good or do I have the right to fight this and how would I go about it. "

Ex's name is on the deed and on the house, he can make the agreement as technically he is an owner. You do not want him making the agreement get his name off the house. What is the purpose of this agreement and knowing exactly where the property line is anyway?

He is an owner of the property. he can legally make agreements for the property, that's what owners do, Get a lawyer and your own survey and get his name off of the property if this is an issue. Of course he "should" take your opinion and preferences into thought but at the end of the day he is an owner of the property