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Gaps in new engineered wood floors

prady22
6 years ago
last modified: 6 years ago

We installed 7" engineered maple floors couple weeks ago. Glue down on concrete slab. Upon a closer look I noticed several gaps between the planks. While some are hard to see if I stand right above them with ambient light (as the room is not very bright), I can easily see them when I take a picture with flash or use a flashlight. Some of these thin gaps can fit a business card and some are almost paper thin.

I was expecting new floors to not have any gaps at all whatsoever. Especially because they are new and are not even going through a seasonal cycle. Plus we are in So Cal where we should not see huge fluctuations.

The installer will repair some bigger gaps (by removing the planks and putting in new ones) but is suggesting to use a filler / putty for smaller ones. I wanted to get some advice on whether I am being too picky or not with these.

Need some advice on:

a. Are some of these thin gaps are expected / normal in any such job?

b. Is putty / filler a standard and acceptable approach

c. For the smaller gaps is it worth going through putting in new plank over some filler. Can the installers match new planks flush with the existing ones?

Thanks in advance.

First 2 pics: This is how an area looks like. The tapes markings are big to small gaps. Each looks different in a close up picture





Gaps that can fit a business card. Again not very easy to see when i stand near them


Next 2 examples of gaps that are slightly thinner than business card and hard to see if standing near them.





Comments (15)

  • PRO
    Joseph Corlett, LLC
    6 years ago

    It's a wood floor, not a space shuttle.

  • PRO
    Johnson Flooring Co Inc
    6 years ago

    "I was expecting new floors to not have any gaps at all whatsoever."

    Talk about unrealistic expectations! There are two main conditions to inspecting floors. They should be inspected from a height of about 50" and it should be under normal lighting conditions. Your flaws appear to show only under unusual circumstances so they wouldn't be considered a flaw. If they bother you they could be caulked or puttied. Replacement would be the height of foolishness. Chiseling boards out and putting new ones in with missing parts of the t&g construction, with the expectation that the 1/16" gap might be eliminated, isn't logical.

    Yes, you are being too picky.

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  • User
    6 years ago

    You were a good candidate for plastic and MDF, and not natural wood. Mother Nature rules here. And you need to move on to inspecting the grout in your shower or the depth of your insulation, or something else far more important and overlooked.

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  • PRO
    Cinar Interiors, Inc.
    6 years ago

    Very common. When you're able to fit 2 quarters side by side, then it's time to start asking questions.

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  • prady22
    Original Author
    6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Joseph C. your reponse did give me a chuckle. However i fully understand
    this is not a space shuttle - precisely why i wanted to understand what
    is acceptable and what is not :)

    Thanks Cinar, Johnson, and SJ Mccarthy for objective answers. SJ again love your detailed answer.

    This is our first wood floor and my expectations were based on a roughly 300-400 sq ft of anderson engineered wood floor we ripped out in one area to put in this new one. That floor had zero gaps over 6-7 years and i could not put in a paper if i wanted to. I was thinking if one installer did it, other can too. SJ Mccarthy addresses that accurately. It was a not a distressed floor and had a flat finish and that could be the difference.

    I have seen distressed wood floors in large houses in last 2 weeks and they have zero gaps too. Perhaps they have filler put in which makes sense now based on all your responses.

    To give you guys better perspective, in 1100Sq ft of new install there
    were many areas with the gaps. Of course pictures i posted earlier
    were meant to be examples of smaller gaps only and not all problem areas. I noticed all of these gaps within 48 hours of install. My contractor says these gaps could not have appeared afterwards and would be from right during install as weather has not changed much and glue down wont let wood move so much so quickly.


    I was trying to get your opinion on whether replacement is worth it and I have my answer now. I think i have my answer now. Thanks all for input. Very helpful.

    So you folks have some perspective, there are some areas that are
    visible standing up and in right lighting. These are the ones the
    contractor said are install problem and should be fixed. and based on all of your inputs, I think i can have a better and practical discussion with him.


    Just for fun here is a picture I had put together for my contractor to review the work. There are about 8-10 credit cards.

  • PRO
    Johnson Flooring Co Inc
    6 years ago

    I maintain that it's not wise to replace boards for the gaps you have. I suspect that your old Anderson floor was narrower planks and therefore probably easier to close up the gaps when installing. Wider boards can be tough to drive up tight without damaging. Slight variations in the material and subfloor can also lead to gaps. You can either have the installer fill the gaps or even dribble a little stain in the joints to color the visible tongues. If your desire to replace boards persists, try one in an inconspicuous place first. Also consider that if you remove a board that's 7" wide, in a space that's 7-1/16" wide, a new 7" board isn't going to be much different except that you could split the gap into two 1/32" gaps.

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  • prady22
    Original Author
    6 years ago

    Thanks Johnson FC. You are correct about old anderson floor. 3" planks.

    I like your idea about stain in joints!

    No I didnot have a strong desire one way or another before understanding if this was common and within acceptable limits. In fact my contractor and installer thought it was an installation issue at least with the planks with wider gaps running along the side. But before getting back to him with an opinion i was trying to understanding what i am looking at first from experts here.

    You are correct about your last point about wider gap. My contractor was suggesting that since the side wise gaps are closer to the wall, he will basically remove that plank and all the 3-4 rows after that running up to the wall to fix the problem.

  • prady22
    Original Author
    6 years ago

    Colorite seems to be a good option for a filler? Any others that you pros would recommend?

  • PRO
    Johnson Flooring Co Inc
    6 years ago

    We use Woodwise prefinish filler as it's sold by one of my main suppliers.

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  • User
    6 years ago

    Filler will just get squeezed out in the summer when the wood expands. Smushing the boards together with no gap is gonna give you edge crush when they can’t expand as much as they need to this summer. Then the gaps will be even bigger next winter because of the edge crush.

    If you ever looked at the wood floors in a 130 year old house, you would see gaps because of that seasonal expansion and contraction. And no modern climate control.

    To get floors with zero gaps between them, you need narrow boards and museum quality humidity control in your HVAC system. AC in summer, and that humidifier in winter. 30-55% humidity. No drier, and no damper. No open windows in muggy spring days.

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  • PRO
    Cinar Interiors, Inc.
    6 years ago

    If the GC and installer aren't aware of natural expansion and contraction of wood...maybe they shouldn't be installing in the first place.

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  • Chessie
    6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    And clearly “museum quality” is not realistic. Especially when you live in a northern climate where the relative humidity in your home is really not supposed to be as high as the engineered wood warranty requirements state. My own house is hovering right around 34-35%. At work - it’s 32% right now. It’s been in as low as 21% in the last week. Accept the gaps It’s normal.


    With wide planks being all the rage now, looks like there needs to be a lot more consumer education.

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  • Eric
    last year

    I’m confused why its ok for a floor installer to provide tight fininsh work and another can leave a ”credit card” size gap? sounds like typical contractor BS.

  • millworkman
    last year

    "I’m confused why its ok for a floor installer to provide tight fininsh work and another can leave a ”credit card” size gap? sounds like typical contractor BS."


    HUH?