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Pinus heldreichii (Bosnian Pine)

basic
15 years ago

I wasn't out to buy one of these, but at $6 there isn't much to lose. I'd of rather it been P. peuce, but I think this is supposed to be a pretty decent pine. The tag lists it as z5, and the first two web sites on Google have it ranging from z3 (Mobot) to z6 (NCSU). Which is more accurate do you suppose? This will affect where I plant it, but if closer to z6 it probably won't matter. The one I bought is var. leucodermis and I'm hoping its hardier than the species, but I have no information to back this up.

Are all P. h. referred to as Bosnian Pine, or is this common name specific to the var. leucodermis? Any comments on this pine would be greatly appreciated.

Bob

Comments (10)

  • phasmagnosis
    15 years ago

    Studies has concluded that Pinus heldreichii and Pinus leucodermis are the same species. And I suppose Pinus heldreichii var. leucodermis is just an erroneous use for the tree in cultivation. I'm not a 100% sure though.

    One of my suppliers and many other sources rates it about zone 5.

    It's a really beautiful tree, with very special bark. Just take a look at the photo of the Baikushev's Pine in Bulgaria. I have to get a few of this species myself some day.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Baikushev's Pine

  • kman04
    15 years ago

    Following up on phasmagnosis' link, here's a quote from the Wikipedia page for Bosnian Pine(P. heldreichii); by the way "Bosnian Pine" is the only (English)common name I've ever heard for this Pine and P. leucodermis is now synonymous for P. heldreichii as far as I know; anyway here's the quote:

    "It is very tolerant of severe winter cold, hardy down to at least -45°C, and of severe wind exposure. Many in cultivation are still grown under the name "Pinus leucodermis" or "Pinus heldreichii var. leucodermis"."

    For those metric challenged, that's -49°F, which would make it zone 2!(at least briefly) I've always heard this Pine was zone 4/5 hardy, but that's mostly been from catalog descriptions. I did see it growing well in the Chicago area, so it's at least zone 5 hardy. Lastly, I believe Resin started the Wikipedia page for this species, but not sure if he added the hardiness info or not.

  • pineresin
    15 years ago

    Very nice tree. Certainly zone 4, and probably zone 3, hardy. Not sure how it would do in zone 2.
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    Resin

  • basic
    Original Author
    15 years ago

    I was bracing for the worst, so this is very welcome information. I may go back and buy a couple more at this price. Resin, thanks for posting the pics. The cones look interesting. I've read this tree cones freely at a young age, and maybe they'll be inclinded to do so for me.
    Thanks to all for responding.

    Bob

  • kman04
    15 years ago

    Was this tree for sale at a big box store or other national chain or was it just local?

    For $6, I'd pick up a couple!

  • basic
    Original Author
    15 years ago

    Hey Matt,

    Its a midwest-based retailer that tries to compete with Wal-Mart. Yeah, right, good luck with that. Looks like they only go down to Nebraska. BTW, I picked up a 4' Pinus densiflora ÂUmbraculifera (no, not $6 for this one) from them as well. I've contemplated buying the Tanyosho Pine for a few years, but couldn't quite bring myself to shelling out the $$$. I went shopping for a riding mower battery and came home with conifers. DW could only roll her eyes. :>)

    Bob

    Here is a link that might be useful: Shopko

  • pineresin
    15 years ago

    Yep, nice dark purple-blue immature cones, though they fade pale brown after opening. It doesn't bear cones quite as young as e.g. Abies koreana, but does start fairly early, at around 2-3m tall or thereabouts.

    It is also very adaptable to different soil types from acidic to limestone, as long as it gets reasonable drainage.

    Resin

  • tsugajunkie z5 SE WI ♱
    15 years ago

    Shopko carries trees like that? Who'd a thunk?

    tj

  • wisconsitom
    15 years ago

    Thanks for the tip, Basic. We've got Shopko! Now there's another thing for my to-do list.

    +oM

  • kman04
    15 years ago

    Thanks for the follow up. Never heard of shopko before. Looks like I might have to make a trip up to Lincoln, NE! It'd give me an excuse to check out their "Nebraska Statewide Arboretum".

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