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Help with overhead lighting in galley-style kitchen!

Brian S
8 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago

Hi everyone! I’m a first-time poster who could use some overhead lighting suggestions for my kitchen remodeling project.

I’m converting a closed floor plan into an open one with a “galley” style kitchen with island. The cabinets will be Shaker style, being in white for the main ones and a rich beige for the island. The wall paint color will be Benjamin Moore Revere Pewter. The countertops will be [Cambria Berwyn[(https://www.houzz.com/products/houzz-photo-prvw-vr~17427155). Above the island will be three [Possini Raindrop Chrome Mini Pendant Light[(https://www.houzz.com/products/possini-raindrop-chrome-finish-mini-pendant-light-prvw-vr~1431135) pendants, each of which is just 6.25" wide (other views are here, here, and here). There will be cabinet overhang on the side facing the living room as well as the “back” side toward the balcony. The pole is for electric to comply with pesky codes, since we can't run wiring under the concrete floor.

I’m struggling with what to do in terms of overhead lighting given all of this. As you can see in the photos, in the closed floorpan, one fixture was a fluorescent (roughly 22”) and the other was a strange dining table fixture. I’ve thought about flush mounted fixtures as well as flexible track lighting. Some of my concerns and considerations are:

• The pendants will hang from the soffit, which already hangs down 12" (from 8' ceilings).. That has lots of implications: pendants hanging somewhat lot hanging lower, obstruction of light from the “main” fixtures, etc.

• The ceilings are concrete, so wiring needs to come from one or both of the existing apertures. We can't go drilling to put in new wiring--at least not there. (Conceivably, we could run electrical along the top of the cabinets though.)

• I’m a little concerned about things looking too “busy,” especially with the pendants already there. This isn’t a big space. For example, I think more discrete lights is better, but something like this might just be overload, especially if I'm striving for a more modern look.

• Some of the track lighting products can hang down as much as a foot. One example that I otherwise liked is this. I'm trying to think about what the sight lines will be--for example, for someone sitting on the couch, looking into the kitchen and past the pendants. I don't have a good idea of what will work.

I feel like lighting could make or break how this space turns out, so I'd love to know what you all think I should do—other than drink less diet ginger ale :). The unit gets an OK amount of indirect light (well, as much as an urban condo surrounded by other condo buildings can).

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Comments (12)

  • Carrie B
    8 years ago

    I think if you post a 2 dimensional, to scale (and with dimensions) picture of your layout, folks on here will be able to help.

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  • Brian S
    Original Author
    8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Thanks! I added the only layout schematic I have. Unfortunately it doesn't show the soffit, since it's just the designer's mock-up. To augment the information there, the soffit is about 31" deep. It's 6' from the back wall (where cabinets and appliances will go) to the edge of the soffit, which is roughly where the inner edge of the island will be too. And it's about 14' of interior ceiling space (i.e., from the edge of that soffit on the left, where the old dining table fixture is, to the front right corner of the angled soffit on the right).

    Unfortunately that's everything I have. Hope this makes things more helpful and not more confusing. :)

  • Brian S
    Original Author
    8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Yup, the cabinets are ordered. There actually wasn't really any other (economical) way to arrange the appliances given the plumbing situation and the building requirement of using the existing ducts to vent the range and OTR microwave. The sink and dishwasher could have been swapped had I gone with a smaller refrigerator, but that's about it. This building is a little bit of a mess. Believe me, if I had my preferences, we would be talking about a very different layout!

  • Brian S
    Original Author
    8 years ago

    I thought I'd add one more bit of detail. I went to a professional lighting shop yesterday, and their recommendation was to put in two tracks that are perpendicular to each other. I can definitely see the appeal of that, although I worry about "dead" spots too.

    In any event, I would welcome suggestions and thoughts!

  • raee_gw zone 5b-6a Ohio
    8 years ago

    Do I understand rightly -- you only have 2 spots that you can hang fixtures, where the current lights are?

    I think your chosen mini pendants are beautiful. I don't think that you should combine them with track lights in such a small space. I tend to think of track lighting as a design element too and worry it might be too much. However, if they can be placed up into the edges of that cove formed by the soffit and not really visible, they might work. Or, would it make the ceiling in the kitchen too low to enclosed that space so you can have recessed lighting?

    Brian S thanked raee_gw zone 5b-6a Ohio
  • Brian S
    Original Author
    8 years ago

    Hi—thanks for chiming in! Yes, you have it exactly right. It’s a concrete ceiling, and there are holes in only two places with wiring. We actually removed those hideous two fixtures today. They won’t be missed. :)


    Unfortunately, recessed lighting isn’t an option because the ceiling is concrete, so no matter what, the fixtures have to protrude somewhat. Your concern about track lighting being too much is exactly the same one I have. On the other hand, I feel like putting two “standard” flush overhead fixtures would make it really obvious that the space used to be a separate kitchen and dining room, and therefore wouldn’t look very cohesive in the new layout. Maybe the issue is that I just haven't found the right fixtures--track or flush mount?

  • amykath
    8 years ago

    I think you need to get some track lighting (as it seems your only option) that does not scream look at me. Something that will take less of the stage in all of your wonderful details.

  • atmoscat
    8 years ago

    Have you thought about one of the suspended cable lighting systems? It might be a cleaner and more modern look than track lighting. One example.

  • User
    8 years ago

    Do you have any place to mount chrome swing arm sconces? Like these:

  • User
    8 years ago

    Faux recessed lights?

    http://www.maxlite.com/products/faux-can


    faux beams with lights (except recessed instead of spot)?

    http://ana-white.com/2012/01/plans/beams-light


  • raee_gw zone 5b-6a Ohio
    8 years ago

    These were posted on another thread -- maybe would work for you?

    Pixi Flat Panel lights