Frederic Mistral?

Where are you located? How large is the bush by the end of a growing season? Winter hardy? Much BS?

I'm in northern Utah, zone 6b. Winter hardy: apparently yes. It survived the nasty 2013-2014 winter without protection, and as I recall, didn't suffer notable damage. It's a gradual grower and tends to spread outward more so than upward. So it's one of the shorter plants in the garden. Blooms often have fewer/smaller petals in the summer heat, unfortunately I don't have a photo of those. I don't remember seeing BS on it before, but that doesn't have a strong presence in this garden anyway (thankfully). This year we have had mildew and rust -- it got exactly one spot of rust, and while its leaves stayed clean of mildew, a few of its buds were badly damaged by it.

Frederic Mistral is a possibility, but I'm not sure about it. Color and petal shape seems off.

I think it looks like Belinda's Dream. Not sure that one is scented thou.

It is similar to Belinda's Dream. But based on pictures at helpmefind.com, that one has longer leaves with deep serration, also really dark green. I've never seen leaves like that on this bush. Also, this one's blooms appear more prone to nodding than Belinda's.

The chances are that it would have been purchased locally from a nursery. You could try asking at a local nursery, especially one which has been business since before 2000. It does look like a fairly recent cultivar, I would guess one released not earlier than about the mid eighties, and likely more recent than that.

I have a feeling it might definitely be Queen Elizabeth http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.245728

Too many petals for Queen Elizabeth, which also has little if any fragrance. It's not BD, either. Medium pinks are the toughest to ID, because there are so many good ones. Whatever it is, its' a keeper.

QE nas a different shape and only a very mild fragrance.

Yeah, we have a Queen Elizabeth too, and this unknown one is very different. Also the QE bush is about 4 feet taller than it, haha. Your QE is beautiful, pugetsoundgardener!

Thanks! It's about 8' tall, and I'm really happy just to know what it is! We inherited a bunch of roses with this 100 year old house and I'm still trying to figure out what I have.

That's similar to my situation -- I inherited my grandparents' rose garden. I've been trying to ID them for a couple of years now, and so far have only found the names for three. It's fun but also frustrating, lol. So hopefully you will have more luck than me with learning the names for all your roses. And how lovely it must be to live in a home with so much history!

I have two positive IDs so far, one possible ID and one complete mystery. Plus I just put another rose up in hopes of an ID. It's sure interesting having such an old garden! If you have older roses the Antique Roses forum is a good plan to ask.

I saw your thread in the antiques forum and also the one you posted here about your unknown pink #3...it's funny because that one looks a lot like my Queen Elizabeth! Even though your first pink rose was ID'd as it (and that bloom is a similar color/shape). Maybe the first one is the climber version, the canes look like it could be? *shrugs*

Well QE has hips, so I think that disqualifies pink rose #3 which this one doesn't. They seem to think it's a bit more modern than QE as well...

Could it be First Prize? http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.2764&tab=1 

Bewitched? http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.676&tab=1 

First Prize and Bewitched are lovely, but they don't look like they have enough petals, and shape is different.

It resembles some photos of Sonia Rykiel. I haven't grown that one myself.

I looked at the HMF page for Sonia Rykiel. The bloom form looks like it favors more of a cupped, old-fashioned shape. It appears that it sometimes has an yellow tint to it too, which I've never seen with this one. Mine is always a light pink. Gorgeous rose though.

One thing I noticed about the rose today that may help an ID -- the scent has changed with the hotter temperatures. Now it smells strongly of lemonade/citrus! Really incredible scent. I wish there was a way to convey it here.

Here are some more pics I took today.

Peeling petals back to see the stamens. This rose is a pollen machine. I used it on a couple Westerland buds this year, and I probably could've made several dozen crosses with the pollen from just one of these roses. Can't say the same for Westerland's pollen, sadly.

Jadis aka Fragrant Memory? Or Perfume Delight? Both varieties have fabulous fragrance--among the very best--and both can have very double blooms that quill like your mystery rose.

Perfume Delight's color is too dark, but Jadis is like mine. Can't find photos of blooms that really resemble my rose's form though.

How about the nodding The Ingenious Mr. Fairchild. Oh never mind the petals don't roll back on TIMF.

Here's a list of other roses I've found to be similar, but not quite right.

Arrillaga

Lady Alice Stanley

Savoy Hotel

Simone

St Elizabeth of Hungary

Mum in a Million

You might add Sweet Surrender to your list of "ruled out" roses. Another very similar bloom form, color, possessing fantastic fragrance, with a growth habit like your photos. However the blooms are much flatter and never quill.

It is also definitely not Frederic Mistral.

Got a pic of this rose bush's altered summer bloom -- new blooms formed in the heat don't like to quill, old blooms still do: