Now you need to post a layout of this space and the spaces around it for our layout gurus to give you great ideas. I can see those doors are going to be a design challenge, but I'm sure they can be worked around. It's going to be a great space.

Dear Sam,

I
think you now realize you should have worked this out on paper...before you
started ripping your home apart. Real life is nothing like what we see on TV.

You
can't renovate a kitchen on the fly without kitchen interior design orconstruction drawings, and expect it to turn out well. It is a construction
project involving multiple trades people to get the work done properly
according to local building codes.

Even
if you do the work yourself you should apply for, and acquire the proper
permits and get your work inspected.

What
they don't show you on TV is the tremendous amount of preliminary work done,
and all the time it takes to complete - ahead of time - that goes into the 60
minutes of sound bites they actually show you.

They
do home improvement enthusiasts a huge disservice by leading viewers to believe
they can pull an idea from the ether, just by walking through the space. Then
get right to work by taking a sledge hammer and start demolishing walls.

"Isn't
This Great With That Wall Gone!"

So
you can save some money by helping out and complete your renovation in a matter
of days or weeks. Without a completed set of building construction documents or
help from anyone but the shows celebrity host(s).

They
don't show all of the planning, design work, and drafting of the construction
documents that are produced by architects and designers they use on the show
behind the scenes.

To
get the necessary building permits to begin the work, pass the numerous
inspections required to build to local codes, and when completed acquire a
certificate of occupancy. So you can actually live in your home after the
renovation is completed and you have passed all of your inspections.

It's
not your fault and I think you're brave to admit to being in such a predicament.
Hopefully sharing your experience will save many of us from making the same
mistakes.

If
you'd like help here, you'll have to post a floor plan of your existing
conditions contributors can work from. You'll get better results if you include
adjacent rooms to the kitchen so your kitchen can be seen in context to the
other rooms in your home it serves. Also, appliances you’d like to use for space
planning purposes.

If
you don't have plans you should post a rough sketch with accurate dimensions to
work from.

If you need it...attached
is a kitchen plan measurement example with dimensions and helpful hints to help
you dimension your rough sketch.

You need to show where the windows and doors in the expanded space. Can the hook ups for the sink and stove be moved (is stove electric or gas and is it on a raised or slab foundation?) is this a one story house? Are these rooms on the front side or back? What is through the white double doors? And the brown single door?

Hi Sam,

i recognize your name from the following thread, http://ths.gardenweb.com/discussions/4230987/dream-kitchen-dilemma

In that post you ask for help, but with a kitchen that you've just finished remodeling and you've just realized you have no place to sit. A kitchen remodel is huge and requires a lot of thought about exactly what you expect out of the resulting space. It is a major oversight to complete a kitchen reno and not have a comfortable place to sit while the cook is working, especially if that's something if that's something you specifically want.

Now, in this kitchen, you have torn out a wall without a plan. Having a list of expectations for your finished kitchen is the first step and it's apparently one you missed on your dream kitchen. Whatever this kitchen is to you, I would suggest figuring out how you want it to function. Coming here is a good step, but if you actually want the help of the talented designers on this site, and not a few random ideas thrown at you, communicate those needs in your post, and DEFINITELY post a layout of the entire floor with measurements.

Ok people. Number one I just wanted ideas on what could be done. This is not our gouse, it is a friends house. The stove literally wouldnt open unless you opened the fridge to make room. So if you think we went into this with no idea of what we are doing, you're wrong. We torn down a half wall and started moving the cabinets around just to get an idea of what would be the best way to maximize the space and layout. We do not need permits or inspections where they live.

In regards to my kitchen Reno in previous posts. I went into it knowing there wasn't room for an island or a table. We have a separate dining room so it was not an oversight or simple inexperience...I was looking for ideas for skinny tables and If people would think it was even worth it to add. We tore our whole kitchen apart, knocked down walls, put in a steel beam, ordered custom cabinets, flooring, appliances, LEDs and did everything on our own.

we built, added and attached a 34x30 garage, ripped our entire roof off and relayed everything all on our own. To say we don't know what goes into a renovation is a severe miscalculation on your part. I apologize if you feel that someone needs to be hired for every part of a Reno because that just isn't the case.

For those that want to be helpful, the brown door goes in to the garage. The double doors lead to the outside patio. There are no gas lines that need moved the only issue would be the water lines. They would like the sink to stay where it is

This is a photo of the adjoining room (living room). and there is also a hallway to the right of these rooms. That is a view of the kitchen from the livng room. I'll take random ideas thrown at me. They aren't looking to do an entire kitche design/overhaul. The kitchen area now is basically less than 8x8. They are looking for simple solutions. This is their first home

I'm not suggesting that only a licensed contractor can do a remodel. We're DIYing a lot of ours, including framing (not electrical or drywall). What I *am* saying, however bluntly, is that you will get the best, most usable, and simply *most* help if you share as much information as possible. If you're an experienced DIY remodeler, you are probably adept with home design software and could easily and quickly come up with a simple floor plan of walls, doors, windows and plumbing. Even a handwritten layout would help.

Sorry about the tone of my previous post. :(

I would consider cabinets along the garage door wall. That kitchen desperately needs some storage. This could either be all pantry or uppers and lowers with counter space. A broom closet in that location might be useful.

How do I ask for Layout Help and what information should I include?

http://ths.gardenweb.com/discussions/2767033/how-do-i-ask-for-layout-help-and-what-information-should-i-include

Thanks guys! I wish I had the measurements and layout but it's not our house so I don't have anything like that. I agree with the suggestion of fridge and cabinets on wall between garage and living room. That was basically the only other idea we had except moving the fridge to where it is in the picture(there were originally cabinets there but we took them down to see how Fridge would look)