Shop Products
Houzz Logo Print
green_passion

Overwinter questions

green_passion
5 years ago
last modified: 5 years ago

I did overwinter couple of times, this season I did a lot most of the plants they are overwinter now.

Many forum members here said cut both branches and roots. I did it without understand thoroughly and it worked very well.

I have few simple questions.

1. Why we cut roots? Is it because of many death roots or old roots?

2. How to choose a right size pot? How much space should have between the roots and the container walls?

Here many of our forum members may know very well so please give me some answers or links.

I am not good at put some nice words at the end of the post so I stop here. :)

Comments (31)

  • green_passion
    Original Author
    5 years ago

    From this forum post I found a post, it is an old post of 26th April 2006 from organic_nut


    " the problem with keeping old plants is that the roots get old and lose their health. then the plant goes down hill. the old plant usually bring in all kinds of bugs that go wild indoors etc. all this can be avoided with some care."



  • green_passion
    Original Author
    5 years ago

    Some overwinter plants got new buds.


    5 years old Ghost



    Re-potted on the same day now it has buds.




    After trimming the death stems the small one is Brown Ghost I did not over winter on the same day and I expecting it will get new buds soon. My garden scissor is not cut smoothly so I used knife.




    Snow White got buds too


    Snow White again, I have two plants they got buds more faster than the Ghost.







  • green_passion
    Original Author
    5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    When I added new post and pictures to my own post, it added as new comment but it could not be comment all the times sometimes they could be my updates. However I enjoy the forum, to have a space to ask or express something for my plants.

  • green_passion
    Original Author
    5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    Many of the plants got buds. Every season fungus gnats are usual visitors only yellow sticky traps help a lot. In the local market it is very expensive so I buy it from China they are more cheaper. Shipping charge is also free. I never tried local market's yellow sticky trap.

    I am happy to see the new buds and also worry because it seems too me a bit early.



    I haven't water all the plants since I re-potted.

    A bit difficult to grow all these plants in our climate without a green house.

  • green_passion
    Original Author
    5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    I haven't used grow light yet, some of them I put on the window sills and the rest put on the tables. I will remove the branches when they are getting bigger. Now I turn off the heater and the room temperature is around 18 C.

  • green_passion
    Original Author
    5 years ago

    C. Chacoense P2 is 5 years old I got the seeds from pepperlover.com when I bought Trinidad Scorpion Moruga Blend seeds they gave me free. The first year this plant had a couple of flowers and pods and the rest of the C. Chacoense P2 plants had a lot of pods. One of the forum members here told me wild chili sometimes produce more pods when they are getting old, now it is true. Only this season after pruning number of times it produced a lot of pods.


    A couple of weeks ago I harvested and overwintered.




    Overwintered but now it has a lot of new buds.




    The pot is smaller than before, to experiment the size of the pot.



  • green_passion
    Original Author
    5 years ago

    Two years old overwintered Brown Ghost got new buds.





  • green_passion
    Original Author
    5 years ago

    Update




    The first raw left:

    Carolina Reaper, Ghost Peppernovice, Wild Chili C. Chacoense P2 and Carolina Reaper.


    The second raw left:

    Yellow Fatali, Carolina Reaper, Carolina Reaper and Yellow Fatali


    The third raw left:

    Carolina Reaper, Yellow Fatali and Carolina Reaper


    The fourth raw Left:

    Yellow Fatali and Franch Tarragon.


    Two terracotta pots outside is Japanese Wasabi. The soil and leaves and stems were frozen last year and this year but they survived.

  • green_passion
    Original Author
    5 years ago

    Update


    Carolina Reaper got flower buds.




    Brown/Chocolate Ghost




    Ghost




    Snow White







  • green_passion
    Original Author
    5 years ago

    Update




    Brown/chocolate Ghost



    Ghost




    Snow White




  • green_passion
    Original Author
    5 years ago

    2019 update


    Overwintered Carolina Reaper




    Overwintered Ghost Red




    From different angle





  • TheyCallMeDave
    5 years ago

    That's an impressive red ghost. How big do you think it'll be at the end of the year?

    I might start overwintering 1-2 peppers to see how much more productive it is the second year.

    green_passion thanked TheyCallMeDave
  • green_passion
    Original Author
    5 years ago

    I think it will be big like the previous year if it has no disease and infection, it is my expectation.


    Overwinter Chinense is very productive. The first year my Ghost (chocolate) was not productive and the pod size were also not big but after one year it had more pods and bigger size.


    About 6 overwinter plants were failed. They were one Rocoto, one Carolina Reaper, one Fatali and 3 Ghost (crossed).


    Some of the overwintered plants.








  • green_passion
    Original Author
    5 years ago

    March 2019 update


    My oldest overwintered Red Ghost. Today I put it outside, many times my plants got sunburned this season how many of them will be sunburned, I am ready for it. I use some fabrics to avoid the direct sunlight and I won't put them outside very long time, it is my preparation to avoid sunburned.




    Same picture from different angle.






    I gave fertilizer for the first time.


    Still I have many to upload, I'll do it later.

  • HighColdDesert
    5 years ago

    Thank you, these photos are beautiful and informative! I never considered overwintering peppers, but now seeing your success I think it will try it next year!
    Another reason to cut off some roots, is in a pot, some roots reach the wall of the pot and turn right or left. They start growing in a circle around the pot. Then they grow thicker but there is no empty soil for them to grow into so they squeeze each other. So it's good to cut off the roots that are growing along the wall of the pot and provide some empty soil for roots to grow into for the coming year.

    green_passion thanked HighColdDesert
  • green_passion
    Original Author
    5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    HighColdDesert, the difficult part for overwintered for me is monitor the soil moisture and fungus gnats. Less water kills the plants and a bit more water also had problem of fungus gnats.


    I did not use fertilizer but most of my plants have no sign of nutrient deficiency. They started flower about two months ago, I may get early pods if they do not have any problems, mainly problems of sunburned.


    Chocolate Ghost, it lost the biggest and healthiest branch with a lot of flowers. The broken branch I put into a small pot after removing all the leaves, the soil is coco coir and the mulch is cat litter.



    After a couple of weeks. The small leaves are new they are getting bigger. I haven't check the the roots. Just an experiment.



  • green_passion
    Original Author
    5 years ago

    Broken branch rescue










  • green_passion
    Original Author
    5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    Rocoto De Seda Gold easy to grow pepper to our climate, it is prolific and big pod. I hate the taste. I tried once stuffing cheese/meat and baked, it was delicious but I was almost collapsed due to the heat started at night slowly. It is too hot for stuffing for me. Dried and making powder is the best for this pepper.

    Overwintered Rocoto De Seda Gold.



    Sunburned a little bit.



    Dried Rocoto De Seda Gold





  • green_passion
    Original Author
    5 years ago

    Fungus Gnats






  • green_passion
    Original Author
    5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    Many plants died due to the fungus gnats problems I think.

    Hardening off the plants.



    Three years old overwintered Carolina Reaper.







    One year old overwintered Carolina Reaper.



    Overwintered Carolina Reaper one year old.







    Six years old overwintered Snow White.






    Overwintered Wild Chili C. Chacoense P2 is 6 years old. Three times I have pruned this plant.



    Overwintered Fatali Yellow



  • green_passion
    Original Author
    5 years ago

    About to throw away overwintered Chocolate Ghost's broken branch.




  • TheyCallMeDave
    5 years ago

    I don't see anything broken... or did you try to root that?

    green_passion thanked TheyCallMeDave
  • TheyCallMeDave
    5 years ago

    I re-read the post to refresh myself... It looks like it grew new leaves.... any roots? Why throw it out now when prime time is coming up.

    green_passion thanked TheyCallMeDave
  • green_passion
    Original Author
    5 years ago

    I was thinking to throw away when it was broken. It was also the biggest branch of my overwintered Chocolate Ghost. It had a lot of flowers too.


    I haven't check the roots, I like it a bit bigger and stronger before I re-pot it. I think it has roots now, the stem and new leaves make me think this way.


    The mother plant/overwintered Chocolate has a lot of branches after the biggest one was broken.





  • green_passion
    Original Author
    5 years ago

    Overwintered Red Ghost (Peppernovice seed)




  • green_passion
    Original Author
    5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    From Overwintered Questions to Overwintered Adventure

    I started re-potting.

    The oldest red Ghost re-potted nothing went wrong except one small branch broken, I did not throw it away.



    Overwintered Fatali re-potted, no re-potting-shock



    Overwinter Chocolate Ghost, got shock. Overwintered Rocoto De Seda re-potted no shock.



    After about 7 hours, it looks like fine.



  • green_passion
    Original Author
    5 years ago

    Overwintered Red Ghost got first pod.





    The small pot behind the big pot is Chocolate Ghost it is dying after I checked the roots. There were no roots. I changed the soil from co co coir to potting soil from super market.




    The Chocolate Ghost is not yet fully recover from re-potting shock. It lost a lot of very small new roots when I re-potted. It cannot stay a little bit longer outside, all the leaves get wither.

  • green_passion
    Original Author
    5 years ago

    Overwintered Carolina Reaper pods







  • nanelle_gw (usda 9/Sunset 14)
    4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    That's a nice journal! Some of them look like bonsai. I used to overwinter several chinenses in my garage, but this year I left them outside in a low tunnel.


    November

    December

    A rocoto and Fresno look fine. A Tobago seasoning still has some green, but it may be toast.

    green_passion thanked nanelle_gw (usda 9/Sunset 14)
  • green_passion
    Original Author
    4 years ago

    Yes, some of them look like bonsai. I should not cut the stem too short. The period of hardening off is ended all my plants have no problems of sunburn. I have some minor problems due to keeping them outside at night. A couple of days were cold at night it were under 10C. Now the plants look like stunt.



Sponsored