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Is it too much kitchen?

2 years ago
last modified: 2 years ago

I may be the minority here, but I worry we are going too big with the kitchen. Is it possible to have too many cabinets?


Adding updated kitchen layout.







Comments (28)

  • 2 years ago

    I think a person can have too many cabinets because they're expensive and there's no sense in buying more than what you need. Whether this kitchen contains too many cabinets for you is something only you can determine. We don't know how many people you're cooking for routinely, how much you entertain and whether you have a lot of different small appliances or are a stockpiler of non perishables. Have you inventoried everything in your current kitchen and thought about how much storage space you need? It's a tedious process, but it's necessary if you want to get the configuration right. To me the island looks odd, and I don't know what's in the wall with the pantry cabinet. Is the whole wall floor to ceiling cabinetry?

    supernewb thanked kandrewspa
  • 2 years ago

    Are you expanding your kitchen? If so, how many square feet is your house? As an extreme example, if your kitchen is 1/3 the size of your house, it's too much kitchen.

    supernewb thanked Jenny
  • 2 years ago

    Only you know how much space you need to store the things you own. I keep a close watch on my inventory of small appliances and kitchen gadgets and only keep those things that I actually use. I have a standard 10x10 kitchen and it is enough space.


    I know others who cook for a lot more people, cook a larger variety of items and need much more space and I know some who never cook anything and have huge kitchens and every gadget known to man kind.

    supernewb thanked Jennifer Hogan
  • 2 years ago

    I think you may be going too big..a kitchen that requires too much walking to all the areas you use often..is too big…and cabinets you have to climb to reach are a pain…my solution is always to get very creative with a pantry..with all open shelving for easy access..( not having to open doors to look for things) a convenient triangle for stove ..sink… and pantry ..is ideal…in my kitchen I love more windows..less cabinet uppers..

    supernewb thanked btydrvn
  • 2 years ago

    Lastly ..a pantry with no door (or a pocket door that can be open while cooking) makes cooking way easier…Lastly a pantry with full openness makes it easier to keep up with what you need to replace..without going thru all the cabinets before shopping

    supernewb thanked btydrvn
  • 2 years ago

    The house is 3019 square feet. and is a gut remodel. New everything, ceilings, walls, electrical, hvac, etc. The whole area is about 483 sq ft and is open concept and will include a dining and seating area opposite. I am thinking now more of an island like this:

    San Blas - Transitional - Kitchen - San Diego - by Jula Cole Design | Houzz

    and the pantry wall similar to this:

    Rustic Industrial Kitchen - Transitional - Kitchen - Other - by KSI Kitchen & Bath | Houzz

    We currently have a large pantry with two swingout doors and I love being able to see it all at once.


    I will admit that even getting this far was quite the ordeal.


  • 2 years ago

    I feel like I see a number of narrow cabinets in this kitchen.

  • 2 years ago

    I think your layout could be different and more functional but we can't see the full floorplan so can't advise.

    You should get 36" drawer bases instead of 2-18s. I wouldn't go smaller than 24" unless I had to. For the rest, who knows.

  • 2 years ago

    It wouldn’t be too big for us. I have a large kitchen and it works great for us. But everyone is different. Do you have a lot of kitchen stuff? Do you cook often? We do have alot of kitchen stuff. We cook 7 days a week.

    supernewb thanked vinmarks
  • PRO
    2 years ago

    I have a similarly sized house with a kitchen roughly the same size plus I have an additional walk in pantry space so this does not appear to be too much kitchen. I would do a different cabinet layout for sure but that’s just me, this may be the perfect layout for you.

    supernewb thanked HALLETT & Co.
  • 2 years ago

    If you decide this is too uch kitchen--what will you do with the extra space?

  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    It doesn't look too big to me. I do, however, think the layout could be more functional.

    Oh, and your island in both layouts doesn't have the minimum recommended seating overhang for any of the seats - 15" of clear leg/knee space is the minimum recommended for counter-height seating. (12" is for bar-height, which is what people used to put in years ago but have since moved away from in favor of islands & peninsulas all one height.)

  • 2 years ago

    I don't think the kitchen looks too big for the size of your house. I would switch your regular sink and dishwasher with the prep sink.

    supernewb thanked HU-402831377
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    2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    I see better arrangements within the plan, but hard to say what is right for you .

    How many kids, who cooks and how often and how many cooks at one time? How do you like to entertain and how many? Even down to your prep and cook methods......you're mis en place neat as a pin, or you tend to let it all hang out? Your kids are teens and THEY cook? Lots of questions only you can answer, right down to appliances.

    The island dining PLUS using it as the major cleanup sink seems not a great idea, given you have dining nearby. The prep sink on the perimeter would make more sense placed on the island if ANY sink would be on the island.

    The two lounge chairs seem in the middle of nowhere......

    For better input, post the living floor in its entirety and you need more general information that applies to you and your family.

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    The plan is a bit odd . I hope all those bas cabinets are drawers . Only you know how many cabinets you need I have never had too many.The drawers you show by the range are too small . The walkway in front of the fridge is too small. I think the space is very large for no real reason but to comment on that I need to see a whole house floorplan. When clients are finalizing a plan I always suggest they pretend to make a simple pasta dinner with a sald and see how many trips across the kitchen you need to make to do thta . Is that a trip you are willing to make dialy when making dinner . IMO a galley kitcehn is often the most functional . You have all the basics for a good kitchen all in one area and all the rest wasted space . So that space between the islabnd and the dining table is just dead useless space .

    supernewb thanked Patricia Colwell Consulting
  • 2 years ago

    There might not be too many. They might not be the best sizes for the particular location they are in. What do you intend to put in the 18 and 21" cabinets? How many uppers are you doing, if any?

  • 2 years ago
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    The distance I would be focusing on is the distance between the refrigerator and the sink. Then I would be looking at whether that is a french door refrigerator or another type and the size of the doors on that refrigerator. How close that door(s) is(are) when they are open to the sink. The 48" measures from the cabinet to the sink, but your refrigerator is not a counter-top depth. At least in the second picture.

  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    I don't think it looks too big, but it does look like your layout could be more efficient. In general, most prep is done between the sink and the cooktop, and you don't have much handy prep space in that area.

    This thread might help think about the "ice - water - stone - fire" flow:

    https://www.houzz.com/discussions/2699918/looking-for-layout-help-memorize-this-first#n=121

    In your kitchen it might look something like the mockup below, with the caveat that I'm not a designer, just throwing this out for an idea. The trash would be accessible to the clean up area (sink, DW) as well as when prepping on the island.

    If you don't like the fridge in that spot, you could keep it where you have it and switch the prep and clean up sinks as mentioned above. Your main prep space is still the island.


    supernewb thanked chicagoans
  • 2 years ago




    I think we finally have our layout. A gut reno is not for the weak.

  • 2 years ago

    Much improved! i’d ask what you are going to use cab to counter for - its in your prep space and just looks odd in the corner to me and hard to access. the color blocking is also not quite working for me - i would keep island same color as main kitchen. make sure there is 48” in front of fridge.

    it’s going to all be worth it in the end!!


  • 2 years ago

    Looking good! I agree with @lharpie that the cabinet sitting on the counter is in your prep space. If you really want an appliance garage, maybe a spot somewhere in the tall blue cabinetry would work.

  • 2 years ago

    Agree with the last two comments. Ditch the appliance garage! Otherwise looks great!

  • 2 years ago

    I think more windows on the sink wall will definitely be a plus as well

  • 2 years ago

    Nothing enhances a boring chore ..like doing dishes..more than a view of the outdoors

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    Counter cabinet/appliance garage isn’t in the way if you use the island as prep space. I agree with swapping the sinks and looking at how you can get your fridge aisle bigger. I would prefer the look of the counter cabinet if it was turned 90 degrees and sort of balanced out the fridge. Then I wouldn’t turn the corner with the upper, just end straight into the wall. Not sure if that messes with the functionality. I don’t think it’s too much cabinetry or too big of a kitchen. One other thought would be to shrink the long side of your island a few feet and think about a walk-in pantry/scullery type room where the blue wall of cabinets is.

  • 2 years ago

    My last home had one of the most efficient kitchens I have ever worked in and needed just a couple of slight changes to make it the perfect kitchen. It was very similar in setup to your kitchen (mirror image).


    I see the same flaw as I had in my kitchen as you have in your kitchen. Not enough space between the fridge and the stove or on the other side of the stove for plating food. Had I not moved I would have moved my fridge. to the pantry wall and I would have created access to the blind corner from my garage or changed the cabinet to a more accessible corner cabinet (hate blind corner cabinets). (The opposite corner cabinet had doors on the peninsula side.)





    In my current home I am converting the U to a galley kitchen to eliminate blind corners all together.


    I loved having the long peninsula without a sink or range or anything to break up the space.


    With the dining table where it is, right next to the peninsula you don't really need to have the seating on both sides of the island. You could add width to your walkway and have seating just on one side using just one run of 24" cabinets under the island. The aisle between the stove and the island is one of the things that made my last kitchen function so much better than many I have worked in. My kitchen worked with 4 or 5 of us in the kitchen at one time. When that aisle gets narrower you have to work to hard to skirt around each other or worry about traffic around the range with the oven door open.


    I think islands are perfect in some designs. I think your kitchen may actually be better with a peninsula than an island. You don't really need the second entry.


  • PRO
    2 years ago

    Just taking a glance, I notice two 18" base cabinets. It would be far more economical to order one 36" cabinet - and you would have more usable space. Try to combine smaller cabinets to form one larger cabinet. Your overall kitchen cabinet cost could be reduced by 30% or more!