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northerner_on

have: papaver x intermedium for sase

northerner_on
10 years ago

I am offering seeds for an heirloom Double Orange hybrid Oriental Poppy for SASE. I have enough seed for only one packet. You can google the subject to read about it.

Please send me an e-mail if you're interested.

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Comments (33)

  • gardeng8

    You have mail! Thank you, Carol

  • gardeng8

    You have mail! Thank you, Carol

  • gardeng8

    You have mail! Thank you, Carol

  • greylady_gardener

    Hi Northerner
    did you get my e-mail that I sent this morning at about 7:30?
    gg

  • northerner_on

    UPDATE: Thanks for all your requests. The first was at 6:33 a.m. so they are taken. I will try to save more this summer.
    Northerner.

  • newine_gw

    This looks like a poppy that I have in my garden. I dug it out of an old garden in Port Hope...it took me two tries to get it to successfully transplant.I now have a largish patch that I have to control with the shovel, both spring and fall.It just keeps spreading outward and I have run out of neighbours who want it. It is pretty surly about being transplanted, (as most poppies are)As the patch is currently about a foot and a half square, I can undoubtedly provide some seeds as well. newine

  • northerner_on

    Newine, I am sure it is the same. It took me several years to find out what it was. It is an heirloom, and its preferred method of propogation is by underground runners. For that reason, it does not transplant well, nor does it produce many plants from seed. My clump, which is about 2 ft X 1 foot was grown from one plant someone was discarding in her spring clean-up. She told me it would not transplant, but I took it home, put it in a pot and it survived the winter. After a few years, I was elated to see what the bloom was like. Mine has spread, but is not invasive in my Zone 5 garden. I have had it about ten years! I wintersowed some a few years ago - got about 5 plants and have a small clump forming. They don't seem to be spreading and have not yet bloomed. I do not usually like orange flowers, but I love this poppy because it wakes the garden up in the Spring and I can see them waving in the wind from my kitchen window.
    Northerner.

  • newine_gw

    It has just occurred to me that my patch is over 15 years old.It would, therefore have a pretty well established root system.Normally, if anybody wants to try it, I dig out a piece,stick it is a pot with sufficient soil to cover the roots and my husband drives it right over to its new garden home.However, this year I will try to pot up some of the outermost travellers and see if they survive. If they seem to be doing okay, I will take them to the Barrie plant swap. newine

  • Parker Daley

    Do you still have seeds available

  • northerner_on

    Hello Parker: I have not been actively trading seeds recently, but on receipt of this post I went out to my garden to find that there were still a few upright seeds pods available (lots of bush back there to prevent them from falling over). I harvested them and they produced a few 'pinches' of seed which I could send out to you if you forward me your address. Otherwise, I could make a note to save some for you next year. Your choice.

  • Parker Daley

    Parker Daley

    6606 Ballash rd.

    Medina, Ohio 44256


    Thank You


  • northerner_on

    The seeds are on their way Parker. Good luck!!


  • Parker Daley

    The seeds have not come yet in the mail. Where are you at in Canada. Did you get a tracking number.


    Thank You

    Parker

  • northerner_on

    Hi Parker: Sorry I missed your post. I live in Ontario and it is my experience that regular post to the US can take as much as a full month, just as it does to Western Canada. I tend not to want to draw attention to these items so I just sent it regular post and do not have a tracking number. I would give it another couple of weeks.

  • signet_gw(6b)

    Just a note , seeds to the US (dependent on how much and what plants) may require a phtyto certificate these days so the seeds may be confiscated if discovered.

  • Parker Daley

    The seeds came today. Thank You for the seeds.


    Thank You


    Parker

  • Parker Daley

    When dose your papaver intermedium re-emerge from dormancy.


  • northerner_on

    Sorry for the delay, Parker, but I have been away and re-making my back garden so moving lots of perennials around. To answer your question, I do not really know. They are in the back border which has morphed into a large meadow like garden with lots of perennials which more or less look after themselves, so at the time they emerge, I am looking after my veggies, getting them planted out. I am aware of the poppies only when their heads become visible above the surrounding plants and are ready to burst into bloom. I would surmise that I am aware of them for a week at most before they open. What I do know is that they bloom during the last few days of May into the first few days of June. I am sorry I cannot be more helpful than that. I keep very detailed records of my plantings and I have sown some of the seeds, but cannot find any references to them. I would imagine I would have winter sown them in paper pots, since they do not transplant well. If I can be more helpful, please let me know.

  • Parker Daley

    The seeds are growing. Thank You

  • Parker Daley

    What happen to your picture that was on this site.

  • northerner_on

    Hi Parker: So happy you are having some success with the 'pinch' of seeds. I just finished sowing my annual poppies

    and made a note to myself to collect more seed this year. I don't know what happened to the picture on the site, and don't quite remember which one it was, but here is another. Happy Spring!!

  • Parker Daley

    Where did you get your papaver x intermedium at.

    northerner_on thanked Parker Daley
  • Parker Daley

    You said that you planted some of the seeds before did any of come true to the original plant

  • northerner_on

    Hi Parker: This system does not seem to allow one to answer an

    'old' post so here is the answer to your question about the origin of my papaver x intermedium. I got it quite by chance, really. I passed by house with a small sign reading 'plant sale' and stopped, as I was a beginner gardener. When about to leave I saw this beautiful bloom just lying on the table, a few leaves, and a very long tap root, and inquired about it. The lady who was dividing her perennials said words to the effect that she was going to throw it out - they don't transplant well. She offered it to me - free - so I accepted, took it home, and planted it in an old pot and forgot about it. I think it produced a nice rosette of leaves the first year and the second year, what a lovely surprise of a single perfect bloom. I then transferred it to my back bed where it took off and spread beautifully. I did not start taking photos. until 2008 and it shows up in 2008 photos, but it was at least 2 years before that I actually got the plant. As I said, I have saved seed and planted them and they did come true. As I recall, I winter sowed them, then transplanted them very carefully. They bloomed the second year. I must check this year if they are still there.

  • Parker Daley

    There is another name for it Armenian Poppy Papaver lateritium 'Fireball' "Flore Pleno" and it was a (pass-along) plant in rural areas. And often classed as a form of the Oriental poppy.

  • northerner_on

    Thank you so much for this information, Parker. It is rather interesting to find out that this 'thing' which I have so blissfully neglected over all these years is rare!! I always knew it was not an Oriental Poppy because I grow them, even have a close coloured one they call Brilliant Red but which is really orange, and I knew their growth patterns were different. Strangely enough, they bloom at about the same time, one in the front border the other in the back border. I do not remember the origin of the name "papaver x intermedium ", but I think it is incorrect. The term 'pass-along' is novel. As my mother used to say "live and learn".

  • Parker Daley

    I think it name might came from a a grower in Colorado called high country gardens that grew it https://www.highcountrygardens.com/perennial-plants/papaver/papaver-intermedium

    There is a go article on this poppy at https://www.tulsaworld.com/scene/russell-studebaker-fireball-poppy-is-rare-desirable-cultivar/article_3ea3619a-d091-5db5-93e7-8bea80ba6123.html

    The seeds that you said you planted did they spread once they have established them self.

  • Parker Daley


    Here a picture of the seedlings there growing fast and they look different then the Orientals.

    northerner_on thanked Parker Daley
  • tuckeyda

    I would love to send you a sase, how do i do this, newbie here

  • northerner_on

    Tuckeyda, this offer was made about ten years ago and I am out of seeds, and do not really do any exchanging anymore. I think there is an exchange forum on Houzz which you might try. Good luck!!

  • northerner_on

    Hi Parker: I see you sowed the seeds in starter pots. I hope you are successful in transplanting them. They do not look like Orientals, except for the fuzz on the leaves. I have had quite a disaster here - we are on the river and we had terrible flooding. Areas all around us were evacuated and several people lost their homes. We did not loose our home, but my entire back border was under water for most of the spring and has only just started to dry out. It's just a huge expanse of mud. The only things that survived were some daylilies, a small clump of tradescantia, and a small clump of New England asters. Just last week, I saw a few leaves of the poppies poking through in two places - the original patch and the patch where I had sowed the saved seeds. And they did come true. Just today I saw sprouts of one of my peonies coming through but everything else is lost!! I have to start all over again. The floods and the rain also brought lots of weeds so I am busy weeding daily. I am thankful that we are safe. Please keep me posted on your progress.

  • Parker Daley

    Do you have more pictures of your poppy and of foliage or Leaves. I would like to see more pictures of your poppy to see the difference in the poppy plants. Let me know if your poppy blooms this year.

  • Parker Daley

    Did your poppies bloom this year.

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