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speakers around the pool

morganlp21
3 years ago

We are having a pool installed and I’m trying to figure out my speaker situation so they can be planned ahead in case of underground wires... I already have two Yamaha AW150 outdoor mounted speakers on my porch. That are wired into my house, connected to my indoor surround sound... I was thinking about getting two rock speakers (OSD RS670) to put around the pool and rewiring the two Yamahas I already have into a new stereo reciever (I really like to just listen to the radio sometimes) so I would have 4 outdoor speakers on their own receiver. Would this be good? How hard is it to get stereo wire down an interior insulated wall to hook up to this new reciever? Would the rock speaker wire need to be in conduit underground? What’s a good stereo reciever that’s not overkill? Should I forget the rock speakers altogether and just add two more mounted outdoor speakers under the soffit closer to my pool so I would avoid having to bury any wires??? I just have so many questions... any advice would be great! Thank you!

Comments (8)

  • Ron Natalie
    3 years ago

    Conduit would only be important if you think something is likely to hit it. What is important, conduit or not, is to use wiring designed for wet/outdoor locations. It WILL get wet.

  • morganlp21
    Original Author
    3 years ago

    Online it just talks about how it can decay underground after long period of time.

  • Ron Natalie
    3 years ago

    Online it just talks about how it can decay underground after long period of time.


    Online what?


    Any wire that's not approved for wet areas can indeed suffer if used underground. Putting it in conduit will not help. Underground conduit is ALWAYS a wet area (believe me, I've watched water flow out of high voltage power conduits for ten minutes after we cut them open.


    Further, wire not approved for UV exposure will degrade if exposed to sunlight.


  • mtvhike
    3 years ago

    DavidR, are you proposing battery-powered speakers? If not, wireless speakers don't exist!

  • DavidR
    3 years ago

    Yes, of course - rechargeable Bluetooth speakers. Put the speakers where the people are.

  • who? me?
    3 years ago

    I guess I'm late to the discussion, morganlp21, Are you still working on this?


    I would mostly agree with DavidR. Having multiple speakers spread out around the listening area gives the best overall effect. Think of a department store. They'll have hundreds of speakers throughout their space but each playing softly. You can hear the music everywhere but it doesn't drown out anybody's conversations.


    I also agree that the speakers should all be playing in mono. Stereo relies on the listener being in a "sweet spot." That's impossible over a large area. Stereo is pointless and annoying under these conditions.


    Where I don't agree is the world's obsession with wireless speakers. (Not dissing DavidR here, his is a valid consideration, it's just that in every discussion, everywhere, about speaker placement these days, wireless is the first "solution" everybody jumps to.)


    Wireless doesn't mean electricity-less. You either have to plug them in to power them, plug them in to recharge them, or change batteries all the time. Plugging in defeats the whole point of wireless. Everybody I've seen go the wireless route ends up schlepping the speakers out every time the want to hear music and schlepping them back inside afterwards. And they all still have the problem of single point sound being too loud for the people nearby and inaudible for people across the yard. None has opted to continually schlepp multiple speakers outside.


    Contrast that with a wired system where you just have to flick a switch or two. Guess which will get used the most ?


    Wiring is pretty easy. Low-voltage landscape lighting wire is made for direct ground burial and works perfectly for consumer speaker installation. (High power commercial PA is a different animal.) If you can install Malibu Lights, you can install a landscape speaker. Conduit isn't required but you want to avoid putting a shovel through it while gardening. So some kind of protective cover or sleeving may be useful in some areas.


    I'm a big proponent of individual wire runs and individual level controls for each speaker (with one master control for the whole system). There's added cost in the front end, more electronics, but I feel the added flexibility of setting sound levels for each zone is worth it. It's nice to be able to dial up the volume close to the pool where music is competing with pumps and waterfalls and swimmers splashing and have it lower on a patio where people are conversing.

  • Jason Fleming
    3 years ago

    Get a sonos amp and never look back. I run one for four out door speakers and two rock speakers. Mine are setup with a two channel knob type volume control on my exterior wall. All hardwired amd sound amazing. Sonos lets you stream from a multitude of music services all controlled via your phone or tablet. They are awesome. https://www.sonos.com/en-us/shop/amp.html