Two other tea roses are red. I'm very in love with the larger one next to my porch steps. The new growth was flaming scarlet. It stands more upright where Peace wants to make a big wide U. The scent seems "perfect" rose to me, so damask. I can smell this rose when I open the door. Super wicked thorns.

The other is in very poor condition, I got it to bloom last fall once but not yet this spring. It is very similar to this but not exactly the same. I may let it go (it has died back to the point that there is one cane a foot tall).

My guess is they are Chrysler Imperial and Mr Lincoln. This is the healthy one of course.

The other two aren't tea roses.

This one looks like Dr. Huey, and I'm guessing root stock. It was completely bare of leaves when we moved in from black spot. I will not be keeping this. Too many negatives.

My neighbor (landscaping guy) says this is a floribunda. It's very floppy, I wonder if it wants to be supported as a climber. There was a trellis here that we had to take down to repair on the porch. Smells rather like apples with a hint of spice, happy bloomer. This is the only photo I've managed to take where the color does not overwhelm and blur the camera.

All credit to the lady before me! Her name was Jane, and she lived in this house since the 50s.

What there is to see of the unhealthy rose doesn't look like the Dr Huey. Here's the only bloom I got from it last summer. Poor thing looks worse now.

I thought this was the case, but just checking. I hope your roses are early clones. From what I've seen in my long life is that the early Peace roses were more beautiful than later ones. Diane

The youngest daughter of the previous family for our house stopped by (she lives out of town). She was happy to see we didn't tear out the roses. Apparently they were her dad's REAL children. She said the three hybrid teas were planted sometime in the 60s!

She confirms that the two reds are Chrysler Imperial and Mr Lincoln but she doesn't remember which was which. The smaller one is getting ready to bloom for the first time this year and the larger is putting on a second round, so hopefully I can compare scents.