Yes Stefan, from koehres, I get most of seeds from them.

SLD from who? Anything good?

Germination has been lousy lately. Maybe cause of humidity and heat, maybe because of dud seeds. I am analyzing the problem, and will deal accordingly....

Good luck, you'll work it out.

I ordered Uncarina Roeoesliana seeds earlier this year. I didn't expect to get good germination rates from them so I planted 20 at one time. Well 15 out of the 20 germinated (that'll teach me to make assumptions). Almost 6 months later and the 5 that didn't germinate....are sprouting now.

Isde, my seeds are from Orient Adenium. I bought 15 seeds each of 'Grape Fairy' and 'Adam' x 'Magic Elf'. Because there was a delay in shipping them out, they included 10 seeds of 'Kiseki'.

That's usually who I buy my adenium seeds from. I probably don't need any more but I want a grafted adenium crispum.

Avonia papyracea coming along.

All of these have changed for the first time now. 3-6mm maybe.

The Avonia looks very cool! The adult size reminds me of eels.

Oh, don't say that! Get it out of my head.

Fenestreria progress photos:

Right after being potted too soon.

Few days ago with some still-stressed outer leaves:

Unusually plump monster Haworthia seedling within 3 weeks.

All sown on 9/20:

Pachypodium Baronii

Sinningia Eumorpha

Sinningia douglasii

I have three other species that have germinated but no pictures yet.

Very nice. Are you using a lot of organic material? I haven't been satisfied with my germination rates. I'm going to be experimenting. I'm going to try going back to potting soil and perlite , and go the other way and try pumice, aquarium sand and a little fine sand. I seem to be fine once they're started.

Jeff yes, I just use mg cactus soil and perlite and it works well for me. I usually get pretty good germination rates. It's the opposite for me, getting them to pop is easy it's afterwards that I make mistakes.

I'd like 200% germination rate.

Cheiridopsis peculiaris slowly coming along.

Anacampseros filamentosa ssp namanquaensis

Various Lithops from seed mixes.

Not sure which cactus this is.

Haworthia seedling photos posted in Haworthtians thread.

If using inorganic mixes, you need to fertilse quite soon, which can be deadly. I experimented with 1:1:1:1 mixes of sifted C&S mix, washed silica sand, perlite and vermiculite and another mix where I substituted coco peat for the C&S. The coco peat made an airier mix but I got better results with the C&S. I would think that C&S is a better fit than straight potting mix because the pH is slightly acidic and it contains slow-release fertiliser and is lower in nitrogen, higher in trace elements.

I have noticed unhappy roots in higher nitrogen growing mixes, that is, when I used ordinary potting mix as opposed to C&S. The mesembs didn't mind but some of the haws got very unhappy. I dont grow anything in purely inorganic mixes because I prefer not to fertilise but organic mixes don't work so well for those in cooler, more humid climates

I have been slacking in fertilizing since my inorganic mix came with some time release fertilizer in it. That mostly ran out a few months back... will start fertilizing once I bring everything else indoors.

Anacampseros retusa seedlings, mixed with some tiny propagations:

Avonia albissima - now 1.5 years old:

Nik, thanks for the feedback. You would need to specify what's in the C&S mix though. Around here, most C&S soil is just potting soil (peat moss with a tiny bit of perlite) with some extra fine sand, as far as I know. I should check if the pH is different, but it's still peat moss.

[Not directly related to Nik's comment] I have some Lithops in a mix of perlite, pumice, and a little bit of vermiculite. All I notice is that they're behind all the others in changing leaves, which doesn't mean much. I've been fertilizing all along with low nitrogen fertilizer. Normally I use that plus some peat moss and a little bit of sand, but I'm always changing it somewhat.

ewwmayo, very nice. The Avonias look like eels. :) Not really.

I happen to love eels! So no problem there. =)

Addendum: I wonder if pH would affect germination rate? I haven't read anything about it.

ewwmayo should be an eel keeper.

Ph definitely affects germination but it depends on the extent to which the plants are adapted to specific soils. Geology can be inferred frm plant life. For example, protea seeds will not germinate in alkaline soils, even using tapwater instead of rainwater will make them less likely to germinate.

The C&S mix we get here is coco peat, bark fines, washed silica sand and slow-release fertiliser. No soil added. The main ingredient is organic

Fouquieria Macdougalii and F. Diguetii seedlings. Slow but growing.

New Adenium babies, and a solitary E. francoisii

What's that soil mixture that you're using SLD?

It's a mix of pumice and coir.

My pachypodium brevicaule leucoxanthum seedlings are doing awesome. Here's my largest one:

It's tough to keep these ones in just the right lighting conditions! Haworthia hybrids from my own pollination:

ewwmaayo how old are those? Very nice.

Adenia ellenbeckii. I have an older one that I germinated at the beginning of the year. But I had a few seeds leftover so I decided to sow them.

Cyclantheropsis Paviflora

and Pachypodium Saundersii. I just have to sow some sort of pachypodium seeds whenever I sow seeds lol.

Jeff - I think they are a year old? Some are a bit older. For so long I had them under too much light and they grew slowly.

Isde - Hope your Pachypodium grows big and fat!

Thank you, I appreciate it!

Nice skinny fat plants.

I would like to continue this thread. It started out as me showing photos of seedlings. Then others joined in, then there was some conversation. I was wondering if it would be good to retool it as a place to talk about all seed growing stuff. What do you think? I realize it wouldn't be super active, but I would at least be updating it now and then. I don't want to take anything away from threads for fat plants, mesembs, or any others. I post some seedling photos in the mesembs and Haworthians threads now and then, and I know some of you also post in fat plants threads.

I have a large order coming from Mesa Garden any day of Euphorbia horrida, Copiapoa cinerea, and many types of Lithops and Titanopsis (Titanopses ™Jeff). Finally all of my favorite stuff and no seed mixes. I also have Haworthias going now, but you know how slow they are.

100% germination on the pachypodium saundersii and cyclantheropsis paviflora seeds.

The empty tray is stephania seeds which I can't get to grow. This is probably my third try with them and even with growth hormone, nothing. I'm starting to think that these seeds are sterile....oh well.

Looking good those seeds could be sterile I often wonder that about some that want sprout for me

Hey! How are you bro? Long time no see.

Yes this is the third time I've tried these from the same seller and I haven't been able to get one to sprout. Even with scarification and a 24hr hormone soak. I say sterile.

Isde who is the seller...

For some reason when I'm typing words it deletes when hit space bar so been a pain trying to post anything so I pretty much just read the

Stefan it was koehres.

Willis, yes the updates have made things annoying around here. I think that everyone has had issues of one type or another.

Koehress ...has 7or 8 viable out of 10 packages...and some are older than others....

Germinated some 40-50 tricho seeds, got 30-40 trichos..

Germinated some 50 euphorbia seeds, only 10 sprouted...

If it dont work twice, then try a different seller....

Personally i dont recommend succseed....less germination than koehres...

maybe bercht or adblps.....

lots of itty bitty cactus seedlings. Mostly Astrophytum, a couple Ariocarpus, a few Lophophora, and some Mammillaria. They're a little hard to see...

some Aloe seedlings...

sld, wow. Good thing you have so much room for when they're adults. :) Those are fantastic labels. How do you print them and what are they made of? I have to get my act together with that.

These Dioscorea seeds just starting to sprout been in the soil since March so never give up on them well can't pic to load so

Jeff, at least they grow slowly, I'll worry about having room later :-) We have a label maker, just prints whatever you type on adhesive tape. Much easier to read than my writing, lol!

these are the labels I used: https://smile.amazon.com/Delatanus-200pcs-Reusable-Plastic-Waterproof/dp/B07DSXL1MX/ref=sr_1_23_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1541209464&sr=8-23-spons&keywords=plant+labels&psc=1

I like them because they're a bit thicker than most plant labels, and don't bend easily.

Do those labels last for years? I was going to have my wife laminate some.

sld, can I ask where you got the aloe seeds? I had a very old aloe hybrid mix that I just used up and didn't get any more out of it. I'd like to do more. Yours look very similar. Photos of them are on this thread.

Willis, try again. Don't click submit right away. You have to let it upload before submitting.

The process to upload pictures is a little different than what it was before. Experiment on one of your old threads.

Isde that worked. Thanks for

Jeff, regarding the labels... time will tell, I just started using these recently. I noticed that Corona Cactus uses adhesive labels on plastic, and their's seem to last well. As for the plastic labels themselves, they are thicker and sturdier than the usual plastic labels, so I'm hopeful they'll be less apt to get brittle and break over time.

The Aloe seeds came from my plants. A. 'Peppermint' x A. 'DZ'. Unfortunately I don't have the parent plants anymore.

A question for you guys.... when you list the two parents in a cross, do you put the pod parent first and the pollen parent 2nd, or vice versa? I think that there's a protocol for this, but I can never seem to remember it.

Time for a fresh new page: [Growing From Seed[(https://www.houzz.com/discussions/growing-from-seed-dsvw-vd~5532837)

Let sld know if you have an answer to her question above.