We are in barn theme here. The doors are amazing at 8' tall x 8' wide. They were made from Northwest Door and sash in Oregon and cost just about the same as marvin ultimate doors. The install was definately more time consuming. These type of doors, by their nature do not seal as well against the cold. Previously the large wall out had a terrible 1970s fireplace which blocked the views. Again we are transforming the kitchen into the center of the home.