Need help with 3 black-burgundy unknowns

10 years ago

These three have been unlabelled for a long time. Two of them should be Black Ambrosia and Derrick Cane. I don't know who is who and who is the third one. None are really new.
Any ideas?

The first to bloom and really tall (3 feet at least), I thought this might be Derrick Cane.

This bloomed today and is also pretty tall--3 feet. It is not as plain as the first one. Black Ambrosia?

This is a smaller clump with flowers right above the leaves. The blooms are perfect but much more delicate than the other two.

All are really black when first opening. My camera doesn't capture the blackness. All are between 5 and 6 inches blooms.
Any help would be appreciated.

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kathy9norcal
Original Author
10 years ago
I am also wondering if either of the first two could be Acapulco Night?
Ed
10 years ago
I grow both BLACK AMBROSIA and DERRICK CANE. No. 2 looks like BA, and No. 3 could be BA if it is not established well. But No. 2 is very much what BA looks like. Sorry, but I don't think No. 1 is either. DERRICK CANE is darker than BLACK AMBROSIA and has a yellow to orange throat.
The No. 1 looks more like RED VOLUNTEER to me. You might compare stats.
Ed
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marricgardens
10 years ago
When I saw your first one I thought it was Abba, an early/mid, 28", 5".
kathy9norcal
Original Author
10 years ago
Marric, I have never grown Agga.
Ed, it is not Red Volunteer which I also grow. Unfortunately, my camera can't capture the blackness of the three I posted. They are most likely Acapulco Night, Black Ambrosia, and Derrick Cane. I just need to figure which is which. I do think the second on is BA. # 3 is a very different clump and size than the others.
Ed
10 years ago
I agree, No. 1 could be ACAPULCO NIGHT. No. 2 BLACK AMBROSIA and No. 3 DERRICK CANE. Still iffy on the last one though, based on the plant I grow. You never know if you get a mis-identified plant. The last picture on the Tinker database looks like mine, and I believe it's the hybridizer's picture.
Ed