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OT. Why do we always want what we can't have?

daisyincrete Z10? 905feet/275 metres
6 years ago
last modified: 6 years ago

When I lived in England, I never once planted daffodils. I didn't need to. They were everywhere. Every village had them on the village green. Every town had them along the roadside and on the roundabouts. Every neighbouring garden had them in profusion and when I moved to Cornwall, in the far south west of England, they even grew wild along the lanes. I grew plenty of different narcissus, but never daffodils. So, when I moved to Crete, I duly planted lots of different narcissus, that are suitable for my Mediterranean climate. They are all lovely and I enjoy them greatly.

So why did I start hankering for daffodils? Why did I develop this yen for them? I had never bothered with them before, so why now, did I miss them so much?

I don't know why, but I started searching to see if any daffodils would be happy in Crete.

A noted bulb expert, Oron Peri from Israel suggested that I try an old fashioned daffodil variety, named King Alfred. I managed to find some and ordered just a few, in case they would be a one year wonder.

Here they are in 2012, their first year underneath the loquat tree.

and here are some I picked to-day.

I always took daffodils for granted in England, so why now do I keep going up to the loquat tree to see how they are doing. When they are in full flower, why do I go and gloat over my tiny, two patches of daffodils four or five times a day?

I don't know.

I suppose it is the same as wanting a rose that grows outside one's zone. One tries and tries perhaps a number of times, to realise the dream and to assuage that need.

Daisy

Comments (13)

  • noseometer...(7A, SZ10, Albuquerque)
    6 years ago

    As the old saying goes, "Absence makes the heart grow fonder." Personally, after spending most of my life coddling borderline plants (that never looked very happy) I'm focusing on what grows well here, even if it means common plants (for here).

  • User
    6 years ago

    Nothing says "Spring" like the scent of daffodils!!!

    "With the rose and the lily and the daffydowndilly

    the lads and the lassies a-sheep-shearing go"

    ... a little ditty from a Thomas Hardy novel which I love, in spite of it's lack of literal realism. Where in the world do roses, lilies and daffodils all bloom at the same time,lol?

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  • sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida-9a-ish)
    6 years ago

    Your daffodils are beautiful. That's one thing I haven't tried here.

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  • Rosefolly
    6 years ago

    Here in California we usually have our best luck with Tazetta class daffodils. They are well adapted to warmer Mediterranean climates. Of these my favorite is 'Golden Dawn'.

    There is an American bulb catalog called Old House Gardens. They specialize in older varieties. You won't be able to order from it, but you can read it online and see which varieties (other than the Tazetta class) do well with a mild winter. Look for the ones listed as being adapted to the South. They with names you can look around to see what is available to you.

    And good luck!

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  • Vicissitudezz
    6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Sultry, have a look at these recommendations for heat-loving daffodils:

    https://oldhousegardens.com/HeatLovingDaffodils

    I think I'll try some more 'Tête à Tête' daffodils; they are small and fragrant and bloom about now... I'd guess they'd also do well for you.

    Virginia

    Ha! I see that rosefolly has pre-empted me. That must be a good sign, eh?

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  • AquaEyes 7a NJ
    6 years ago

    Jonquillas as well as Tazettas are recommended for warmer zones. While I haven't seen them go as far as zone 10, they are mentioned for zone 9.

    I posted something to this effect on the other copy of this thread.

    :-)

    ~Christopher

  • daisyincrete Z10? 905feet/275 metres
    Original Author
    6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Sorry, I do not know how this thread loaded twice. It must have been the Houzz imps.

    mohavemaria, that is a great photo. Thanks for that.

    bart, I love your Thomas Hardy ditty and Virginia I love your poem on the other head. They are both happy and sunny poems as they should be with the subject matter.

    Rosefolly, Christopher and Virginia, you are so right. I should concentrate on the Jonquils, Tazettas and others that are naturally happy here. The trouble is that I am greedy. I love my Tete a Tete going up the steps.

    and all my Tazettas and Jonquils.

    ...but I still want my daffodils and I don't really understand why.

    I think noseometer "Absence makes the heart grow fonder." mohavemarie "they never got old for a person who normally isn’t a big fan of yellow flowers." and bart "Nothing says "Spring" like the scent of daffodils!!!", understand best.

    Daisy

  • sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida-9a-ish)
    6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Thanks you guys!! Oh I am definitely checking into southern daffodils! I didn't know I could grow them here. We used to be considered an 8b but are now 9a (global warming, I presume) I am near the coast so I didn't know if it got cold enough but depending on the year, we get some freezes. This year we got to the mid 20's F maybe 6 times. Last year I think we only had a few freezes total. There's an Ace Hardware that has an excellent nursery here with all kinds of interesting bulbs. I will have to go back and look closer. They had 15 different Amaryllis last time I was there. I didn't pay attention to which daffodils they had then. I need to have a closer look lol.

    I think yellow flowers just make people happy. The color is so cheerful. Sunflowers always make me smile too.

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  • erasmus_gw
    6 years ago

    Wowza Daisy, you are an artist with plants.


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  • Kes Z 7a E Tn
    6 years ago

    Daisy- The heart wants what the heart wants, right?

    Your bulb expert friend sounds like a gem. I'll bet he has some terrific suggestions for your garden. Who knew that King Alfred would be one? I believe that it's one of the most popular daffodil bulbs, Maybe it doesn't seem like spring without it for a lot of people. Yours look wonderful and are happy enough to spread. Good choice! They look like spring to me, too.

    SJN- Growing bulbs is addictive but there is a learning curve if you live in the south. It isn't only about the zone where you live but also, whether you have moisture in the summer. Some bulbs that grow in CA won't grow in Florida. It helps to read the OHG web page that Virginia posted and read their newsletters (free) even if you never buy from them. They know what they're talking about and want you to succeed. Or you could do like I did and use trial and error to figure it out. On the plus side I found out who the real experts were. On the negative side, I spent a lot more time and money to get what I really wanted- flowers.

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  • sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida-9a-ish)
    6 years ago

    Kes, thats good advice. If I want to try something new I usually research and then if I still want to do it I will just buy a few and see what happens lol. Ive had a lot of failures but sometimes things surprise me and do really well despite what I read lol. It keeps life interesting. I really love bulbs but I have mostly grown warm loving bulbs/tubers like tuberose, gloriosa lilies, dahlias, canna, blood lilies, caladiums, criniums, etc etc.

    When I lived in a colder location I had tulips, Iris, & Hyacinths. I didn't have daffodils though.

    I planted some plain Stargazer oriental lilies in pots last spring and I didn't know if they would return. I actually forgot about them but they are coming up. We had some extra cold weather earlier this winter so maybe that helped.

    ~Sjn


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  • HY aka NewbieRoseLover
    6 years ago

    Oh, Daisy - I LOVE that picture of your steps with the little bunch of daffodils (or are they narcissi/jonquils? Sorry, I don't know the difference!) - on each step. Just stunning!

    I used to live in the UK and I remember the daffodils everywhere in spring - I especially loved seeing a whole meadow of them, sort of "growing wild" in the local parks (I don't know if they were or probably carefully planted by the park gardeners - haha!).

    I can also relate to your feelings of wistfulness - I used to live in Oxford and had all those romantic, beautiful Cotswolds English gardens on my doorstep that I never really paid much attention to - and now I live in hot, dry Australia and desperately want an English cottage garden (and am trying to create one, even though everybody local tells me its a lost cause and will only lead to heartache eventually!). Argh! I wish I'd appreciated all those gorgeous gardens I had access to when I was still living in England - can you believe that I never even went to the Chelsea Flower Show? I'm kicking myself now!! :-)

    ~ HY


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