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Disease Resistance vs Fragrance

It seems that the more disease resistant roses lack a strong fragrance. Is this true? Are there any roses that are fragrant and disease resistant? I live in CT (zone 6) where blackspots are a real problem.

Comments (14)

  • millymoo zone6B
    8 years ago

    I'm also in zone 6 & I've planted many roses over the years and struggled with the priority of fragrance over high importance of disease resistance. Many yeas ago, I purchased roses based solely on fragrance and as a result, I threw out many a rose that were diseased as they just didn't produce enough beautifully fragrant flowers to make them worthy of putting up with their poor foliage.

    Now that I'm older & have no time to coddle black-spot prone roses, I plant varieties that are most disease-resistant but still floriferous. If they have fragrance, all the better but I have noticed some of the resistant ones(carpet roses, OSO Easy) are only lightly fragrant. I have found a few that were great performers(no disease) and fragrant but they were few & far between. I like some climbers & shrub roses that produce fragrant & many flowers(Explorer series, Veilchenblau & New Dawn)) but I never thought they were strongly perfumed but still delightful. Rugosa roses did well for me too & you can't beat the fragrance.

  • michaelg
    8 years ago

    Some of the newer HTs bred in Europe are said to have both good fragrance and resistance to blackspot. I hope people who have experienced that will chime in (and be sure to say where you live).

  • seil zone 6b MI
    8 years ago

    I think a lot of breeders are working on those two traits right now. Last century they were more interested in the color and bloom form at the cost of fragrance and health. But things have changed and people want that fragrance back that so many of the well known HTs lacked. And with today's more eco conscious society disease resistance is more important than ever. Times change and the roses we seek change along with them. It just takes time for things to catch up to each other.

    I do love my Julia Child for her good health and her fragrance.

  • Patty W. zone 5a Illinois
    8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Savanah for a light pink HT very disease resistant and very fragrant.

    Summer Romance - med pink same as above

    First Crush - Lt pink same as above

    Dark Desire- don't know how to describe color same as above

    Easter Basket - extremely fragrant and very disease resistant not the most gorgeous flower in the world but I'm happy

    Polar Express - fragrant extremely disease resistant

    Thats all I can think of right now

  • ctgardenguy (Zone 6)
    Original Author
    8 years ago

    I have some of the drift roses. They are very disease resistant, but they lack any fragrance for me. I love them despite the lack of fragrance. I have Julia Child too. Great rose. I've had pretty good luck with floribunda roses from Weeks in terms of disease resistance. I've pretty much given up on hybrid teas, but I will look into the recommendations posted here.

  • kublakan
    8 years ago

    My strongest smelling rose is Louis Phillip and it is practically disease resistant. A lot of the OGRs have a great scent and are super roses.

  • zack_lau z6 CT ARS Consulting Rosarian
    8 years ago

    I'd recommend Felcite Parmentier--very fragrant and disease resistant. Grows well despite tree roots. But, its an Alba old garden rose that only blooms once a year.


  • Jasminerose, California, USDA 9b/Sunset 18
    8 years ago

    Wow, those Blossomtime roses go on and on. My complements.

  • dublinbay z6 (KS)
    8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Some of my HTs that are lovely, very fragrant, and bs resistant: Valencia, Oklahoma, Berolina, Memoire (Ice Cream), Elle, Peter Mayle.

    I should add, that "bs resistance" does not mean BS free--especially when applied to hybrid teas. However, for hybrid teas, the above ones are fragrant and fairly good on bs resistance.

    For fragrant and bs resistant shrubs, there are Austin's Lady of Shalott, Munstead Wood, Pretty Jessica, and some people think Jubilee Celebration is although I have some problems with bs on mine (not a disease-magnet, however). A number of Austin's more recent roses are also fragrant and good on bs resistance.

    Others: Well Being (modern shrub); older roses: Souvenir de la Malmaison and its almost identical twin Mystic Beauty. Some claim the hybrid perpetual Mrs. John Laing is both very fragrant and bs resistant, but mine has some (but not a lot) of bs problems.

    Several of my hybrid musks are fragrant and reasonably bs resistant.

    There are also some roses with only moderate fragrance and good bs resistance--ought to do in a pinch. : )

    Hope that helps.

    Kate

  • fragrancenutter
    8 years ago

    Love those roses of yours pat_bamaz! I want them too!

  • Patty W. zone 5a Illinois
    8 years ago

    Apricot Vigorosa despite the name is a floribunda. Very fragrant and extremely disease resistant rose.


    Just beginning to grow, larger rose slugs ate most of her blooms

  • daylilyiris
    8 years ago

    Beverly and Francis Meilland are both disease resistant and very fragrant.

  • stillanntn6b
    8 years ago

    I'm trying a lot of the same roses Pat mentioned. So far, as yearlings go, so good.