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Planting into the Ground-Will they DIE?? Advice is needed

mystearica
7 years ago

Heya,

I hope I'm
not being annoying with all my posts. I
need help. I'm a new gardener and I live
in a zone 6B (Windsor, Ontario – across of Detroit, Michigan)

On Saturday I
busted my butt for 6.5 hours non-stop (NOT an exaggeration from 1230PM-7PM) to
dig out the super deep weeds and to till the soil. My lower back, shoulders, forearms, wrists,
left knee and lower thighs hurt– the useless men (aka brothers) in my family dug
3 holes, said it was boring and went back to playing videogames (what's a post
without a little complaining!!).

Okay now to
the point of this post. I have peppers,
eggplants, tomatoes, beans, peas and cucumber plants. We've been blessed with some nice weather and
I have been practically hardening my plants for over 2 weeks (probably more). My hopes are to plant them into the ground
this weekend since I'm leaving for a poorly timed 10 day vacation on May 8 (Wednesday) – if I
leave my plants indoors they will die (I have lamps… but no water). The time to plant where I live they say is after
Mother's Day - Sunday, May 14.

So… I'm
freaking out and panicking… was hoping the beautiful weather spree would
continue – but this Saturday it was cold and it doesn't look like it's getting
better

https://www.accuweather.com/en/ca/windsor/n9a/month/1183?view=table

What should
I do? There will be no frost (I have
been checking daily – even on our cold last Saturday and the past few days – no
frost)…. Am I doomed? Will they die if I
plant them outside in these temperatures?
I'm thinking of even possibly digging holes in the ground and placing
the plants into the ground on Tuesday (since it's SLIGHTLY warmer).

Should I use
a fabric of some sorts and somehow figure out a contraption… god I'm wasting so
much money - https://www.amazon.com/Mosquito-Barrier-Hunting-Netting-Gardeningwill/dp/B00MB8YH2Q/ref=sr_1_5?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1493743662&sr=1-5&keywords=garden+fabric

I know when
I come back I can go to a local nursery and buy these plants if mine die (they
only sell the generic common varieties)… but I kinda love my plants so I want
them to survive

Any
thoughts/advice is appreciated

Comments (14)

  • farmerdill
    7 years ago

    If you do not have freezing temps during that period and they were properly planted and well watered they should be fine. These plants will sulk in cool weather( just sit there and look unhappy) but it takes freezing temps to kill them.

  • daninthedirt (USDA 9a, HZ9, CentTX, Sunset z30, Cfa)
    7 years ago

    If it doesn't freeze, they won't die.

    So protection against freezes? Well, whatever you put over them to protect them may or may not protect them from a freeze depending on how hard it is, and may or may not overheat them if the sun comes out on a warm day. Freeze protection is something that requires some management.

    A 10-day vacation? Even if you get them in the ground, is someone going to be able to water the seedlings?

  • gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)
    7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    You can certainly cover them all with Reemay or harvest cloth/row cover. That should afford several degrees of cold protection should low temperature occur (good to 28F) while you are gone. It is also a good idea to do so to prevent against a lot of flying pests. Allows adequate water penetration and light and will not overheat.

    ETA: watering would NOT be a concern in my area at this time of year but that is very locationally dependent :-)) YMMV

  • digdirt2
    7 years ago

    I know from all your previous posts that you understand that you have basically "painted yourself in a corner" here and are looking for a way out and reassurances that all will be well. Sadly, there is no ideal solution.

    It would be wonderful if everyone could provide you with a guarantee everything will be fine and you can relax and enjoy your vacation. But we can't. At this point you basically have to walk on the fresh paint to get out of the corner or stay where you are until it dries. ;-) Your options at this point are to cancel the "poorly planned vacation" or plant them now even though it is early, cross your fingers, hope for the best, and then deal with whatever happens when you get back.

    So if you can't have both, roll the dice and take your chances. It is something we have all had to do at one time or another and it is a beneficial learning experience no matter which way it goes.

    Hopefully you'll be pleasantly surprised.

    Dave

  • mystearica
    Original Author
    7 years ago

    @Dave LOL - you are right I totally messed this up this year - LOL @ multiple post - yeah I can get annoying sometimes.. Unfortunately, this trip is a must - been planning it for over a year for my mother's 60th birthday. It's just at the time I didn't realize how much I would enjoy gardening (which I started AFTER I already booked the entire trip... yeah >____< ). I definitely am aware there are no such things as guarantees. Last year my dad and brothers told me I was wasting my time gardening because it would weed out - I had so much harvest I was donating it.

    Eitherway you're right - it's a learning experience.. this year I'm trying many different varieties, I'm making trellises/cages, tilling soil, etc etc - it's fun that's how one improves and next year will be different.

    I guess I'll just bite the bullet and plant them outside . The all time low during my trip is 39 on Sat+Sun. There are "chances of rain showers" - so spring burst rain. I plan on planting my eggplants/peppers a little deeper, my beans/pea plants are BIG and angry and my tomatoes are bushy and short... I may post pictures on this forum after work to see how people feel about their current condition (not sure why I'm doing this... probably like you said earlier... hope + looking for a way out).

    Thanks!!!

  • digdirt2
    7 years ago

    If it is any comfort - we have all been there and done that and have the T-shirts to prove it. Join the club. ;-)

    Dave

  • farmerdill
    7 years ago

    Just go with the flo. Most New gardeners overthink every thing and fret themselves into a frenzy. Relax if lowest predicted temp is 39 F , you are not drawing to an inside straight. The odds are in your favor. Don't worry about the water. Except in arid zones our fore fathers grew all their crops without irrigation. I still do except for occasional supplemental during periods of drought.

  • gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)
    7 years ago

    Row covers or reemay/harvest cloth can be left on the plants during the day without issue. You can leave it in place the entire time you are gone.

  • Peter (6b SE NY)
    7 years ago

    I did exactly the same vacation, left May 9th last year. It got chilly, as it is forecast to this year, no frost though, it got down to 38F one night. Plants looked like crap when I got back, but recovered fine.

  • theforgottenone1013 (SE MI zone 5b/6a)
    7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Gardengal- That is definitely true about the row cover but from the OP's past threads and the statement "god I'm wasting so much money" that I assume they were looking for the cheapest, quick fix option.

    Rodney

  • gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)
    7 years ago

    I hate to say this but "cheapest and quickest" seldom coincide with the best or most practical approach!!

  • mystearica
    Original Author
    7 years ago

    Hmmm bedsheets - that's a great idea! Unfortunately my friends live in the states (I live in Canada)... so that won't work (don't ask about neighbors I never see them and their weeds are close to 2 feet now). Would bedsheet limit the daylight during the day? I can go to a thriftstore and see if I can find very thin ones.


    Here's the pictures as promised - not sure how healthy or ready they are for outside ground planting... and I do understand there are no guarantees


    Tomatoes (there are 3 Okra plants there LOL) - I know I should move them to bigger pots.. but I didn't want to injury them again and then transplant them into the ground (especially since I already hurt them a lot when I transplanted the super spindly cuttings) - sorry the last two images suffer from lightning







    Pepper/Eggplant Combo - as you can see - lots of them. Their color looks nice... BUT I think the stems aren't thick enough (see third picture) - but I can't tell for sure. I plan on planting them deeper into the ground (and I may stake/use a Florida weave - but AFTER I come back from the trip)






    Lastly... beans - they are wrapping around each other and bending over... they are aching for that trellis. I THINK they are healthy - but quite frankly I've never grown them before (again sorry about the lightning).


  • theforgottenone1013 (SE MI zone 5b/6a)
    7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Gardengal- "I hate to say this but "cheapest and quickest" seldom coincide with the best or most practical approach!!"

    I agree. If possible, row covers would be the best option. I was just putting an idea out there.

    Mystearica- "Would bedsheet limit the daylight during the day?"

    Yes, it would. That's why I said it should be taken off in the morning.

    Oops. I think my timeline got mixed up from reading too fast. It is this weekend you are worried about and you won't be leaving until the middle of next week? Then my comment about needing friends to help cover the plants doesn't really apply if you can do it yourself.

    Rodney