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Replace tile with tile or see if I can finish old floor ? kitchen reno

suzmac111
8 years ago

Renovating my kitchen (cabinets and floor) and wondering the following:

1. Should I go through the trouble of removing the floor tile and plywood to see if I could refinish the old floor? I'm removing part of the wall in the hallway (left of photo) which will extend the kitchen into the hallway which has the original old floor.

2. Also should the custom cabinet measurements be done after we remove the floor? does that really make a difference?

3. Lastly, should we extend the island (where the garbage can is) to the post? that would close off the kitchen from the dining area. Or should we make it bigger but allow a 3 foot passage from dining to kitchen?

Thanks for your advice!

Comments (3)

  • Brandi Nash Hicks
    8 years ago
    You need to hire a contractor or designer for a project of the scale
  • acm
    8 years ago

    1) There are a lot of unknowns here. What if the tile is cemented right to the floorboards? What if the hallway is the "original floor" laid on top of the subfloor, while the kitchen is just subfloor + tile? You'll need to take some up and see what you've got.


    2) I'd worry more if you thought widths (e.g., walls) would change, rather than floors. The one exception was if you were planning some floor-to-ceiling high cabinets (like pantry cabinets) and couldn't spare any height at all.


    3) We can't possibly judge this from the single photo you've given us. At minimum, a floorplan to scale is needed, and probably some chat about goals and budget. But really a kitchen planner/designer is worth the time and money.

  • PRO
    Cancork Floor Inc.
    8 years ago

    The tile is higher than the hardwood (I can just make out a
    transition in the photo. Tile normally will have a thickness of 1/2".
    If the hardwood extends INTO the kitchen (this was not always the case)
    then a layer of plywood would have/should have been laid and the tile
    laid over it. That means you should have a 3/4" floor height difference
    (or more). It is still possible to have the tile sitting on plywood
    and NO hardwood underneath....we've seen that before.

    You
    could check to see the total floor height difference as a start. You
    could remove a floor vent to check to see what is underneath the
    tile/plywood combination. It is possible that there is only subfloor
    underneath.

    Let's pretend there is NOTHING under there but
    subfloor. You would want to get as close to the original floor height
    as possible no matter what. That means tile/plywood removal. At that
    point you will have some flooring decisions to make.

    And when it
    comes to custom cabinetry, they REALLY appreciate knowing the type of
    flooring you will be installing. Some floors go in BEFORE the cabinets
    (run wall to wall) and other floors go in AFTER the cabinets.

    To
    make sure your don't have counter top issues (nothing like installing
    counter tops only to realize the dishwasher won't fit....because no one
    thought to tell the cab/counter top installers that a 3/4" floating
    floor was going UNDERNEATH the dishwasher, but not underneath the
    cabinets. Telling them Kitchen Designer's responsibility. If the
    homeowner is the KD...then it is STILL the KD's responsibility to keep
    EVERYONE up to date on these things.

    I've seen it happen where
    the dishwasher didn't fit with the flooring. They had a choice: cut
    the counter top to fit the dishwasher or remove the floor. They chose
    to remove the floor (the dishwasher was "bricked" in). Three years
    later the dishwasher failed and the flooring had to be cut to get it
    out. Home owner needed a whole new kitchen floor...very sad.

    Start
    with a kitchen designer (KD) to come in and work with your space. They
    will have done many renos and will have a few ideas how to approach
    this whole "flooring" thing.Basic measurements can be taken with
    current flooring. The counter top HEIGHTS will be affected by the type
    of flooring installed. And upper cabinets (and their clearance to the
    counter tops) will be affected by the floors you choose. And who tells
    the cab guys/counter top guys...comes down to whether or not you hire a
    professional to help design this or whether or not you are the
    KD...which means you tell the cab/counter top professionals what is
    going in and how they need to compensate for your decision.