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Maximo Large Format Tile Pattern Help

rfharmon
4 months ago
last modified: 4 months ago

Hello,

We are putting the finishing touches on our master bathroom and are left with one major decision.... how to install the large format tile we bought on our walls.

This is the tile (we purchased a grout that will blend well with the tile to make it loo more uniform):



And it will be installed on both walls of the shower and along the entire wall that extends to where the bathtub is located (right bolded wall in diagram below):



People have given us several ideas of what to do, but we really just aren't sure what will look best:

Option 1: Stacked vertically (pro is that you will only have two tiles stacked vertically and thus only one horizontal grout lines, cons are that you will have one single grout line along the wall):



Option 2: Staggered 33% (this is what the box recommends and it does appear to best allow the tile to tell its story, con: more grout lines)



Option 3 Stacked horizontally (pros: compact design with minimal grout lines, cons: feels a bit devoid of inspiration):


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Comments (73)

  • rfharmon
    Original Author
    4 months ago

    @et phonehome thanks for your compassion and understanding!

    Yes, we did pick out this tile, but since this is our master bathroom and we’ve already made so many other mistake, we want to get this one right. The jagged edges on that tile look scary to me. The tiler said he had a 48” tile saw but the mere fact that he already cut 3 tiles without it is still scary. So, if that means returning the larger format tile and starting over with the wall design to ensure quality, we’d be okay with that.

    To be honest, the large tile has been giving me anxiety for a while since it’s so trendy and this is finally the thing that tipped my husband over to my side.

  • roarah
    4 months ago

    Return the tiler not the tile...

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  • felizlady
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    If the grout matches the background color of your tile, the grout line will be hardly noticeable.
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  • rfharmon
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    4 months ago

    @Jennifer Svensson, since you have the large format tiles would you be so kind to tell me where you see the logically stopping points (#of walls tiles, height of the tiles, etc) for the tile and/or show me a picture of this tile in your space. I’ve never seen a complete bathroom bathroom.

  • et phonehome
    4 months ago

    I love large format tile because it means less grout which means it's easier to keep clean. Just thought I'd throw that in there. Keep in mind that if you stop tile in the middle of a wall then you have to "deal with" the edge. That means deciding how you are going to cover up the edge because even if the tile is cut perfectly you don't really want to see the edge. Most of the time you can use a piece of metal (that can be any color) to give it a more finished look. That said, I always recommend putting tile in a place where it will end naturally. Like at the end of a wall because then you can't see the edge. Same with tiling up to a door or a window. Hope that helps!

    And, as others have said, ceramic tile is one of the most common tiles used in residential bathrooms. There is no reason to return because of the way it was cut. I imagine that has more to do with person / tool doing the cutting

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  • rfharmon
    Original Author
    4 months ago
    last modified: 4 months ago

    This is immensely helpful! Thank you! I’ll start with my guy using the better saw (which he should have used the 1st time!

  • rfharmon
    Original Author
    4 months ago
    last modified: 4 months ago

    Update: our tilers came through with a massive wet saw today and laid the large tiles correctly. Per your suggestion, we won’t tile the ceilings and will tile both paralleling walls. Many thanks for everyone who helped qualm my anxiety and pushed me to keep the tile that i wanted!


    Here’s some progress pictures:




  • rfharmon
    Original Author
    4 months ago
    last modified: 4 months ago

    I have one more question. Do folks have a preference for a white quartz bench seat (matching the counter top) or a tiled seat? Here’s pictures of both options.





  • et phonehome
    4 months ago

    Ideally I think it's best to use the material you picked out for the counter for the shower seat. I am not a big fan of tiled seats in showers because it's more prone to water issues down the road. The less places water can get into the better! Sometimes it works out for tile to be the most practical though (like the bathroom renovation I recently worked on where there wasn't enough counter material left for the bench seat. We used tile and it's fine)

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  • rfharmon
    Original Author
    4 months ago

    White quatz it is, thanks @etphonehome!!!

  • et phonehome
    4 months ago

    Post some pictures when it's done :)

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  • rfharmon
    Original Author
    4 months ago

    Most definitely! I sincerely appreciate all of your support!!!!!!! Thank you!!!!!

  • rfharmon
    Original Author
    3 months ago

    Thank you to everyone for your amazing feedback and helping us get through our design block and fear. The tile is up on the back wall and it looks great. The counters are in as well, and now the tile will go up on the backsplash behind the mirrors.


    We decided to go with hanging pendant vanity lights, because we like the elegance of the look. We are now deciding on mirrors. My husband really wants us to have a single large smart mirror that has LED light, anti-fog, weather and bluetooth music. I am not sure if that is the right look for this bathroom, and think it would be preferable to go with two individual mirrors with metal trim, rather than one large mirror. I am also thinking that with that look it might be a good idea to add a third pendant in the middle.


    Would love everyone's thoughts as you have helped us get this far!


    Here is how it currently looks (I put the tiles up so you can see how it will look with the tile backsplash):



    These are the pendants we chose (as you can see from the picture, they will hang just outside the sink on either side of the vanity):



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  • et phonehome
    3 months ago

    With pendants I like having two separate mirrors and having 3 pendants, especially since it seems that your pendants are in the smaller side. And I agree that having mirrors with pretty trim looks nicer.... But if your husband really wants the functionality of the led light mirrors then maybe you should do that to make him happy. I don't know how your relationship works regarding decorating. Personally I make all our indoor decisions (I show my husband everything, and he usually just nods his head... Sometimes I wonder if he's paying attention because it's just not his thing ;) ) so if he ever makes a request I bend over backwards to accommodate him because it's so rare. But maybe your husband is more involved and isn't quite as attached to this idea as I'm imagining. You could possibly compromise by getting two led mirrors. In my opinion we have our phones to check the weather and play music if we want it in the bathroom. I'm not sure why we need it in the mirror. But that's just me

  • et phonehome
    3 months ago

    One more thought, since you are already planning on pendants if you put in recessed lights you won't have a need for the led light in the mirror.

    Also, I stayed in a hotel a few years ago that had one of the led lights and it was really hard for me to see properly to put on my make up (I don't wear a lot of make up and I was in my twenties - it wasn't my eyes!) I know that there are people who love these mirrors but make sure you are one of them before buying one

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  • rfharmon
    Original Author
    3 months ago

    @etphonehome, we ditched the led mirrors for this bathroom. I appreciate your candor! Now I have 3 pendants lights on the ceiling.


    You mentioned recessed lights, I have saw a few bathrooms on Houzz with this look. I'm wondering if this is a preference of yours for my space?

  • seosmp
    3 months ago

    Quick question - can you provide the exact tile you are using - and where you got it from? Thanks!

  • et phonehome
    3 months ago

    I think that recessed lights provide good ambient light while not making much of a design statement. Then you have the pendants for the design aspect and side lighting which is important in a bathroom. I think the combination is the ideal situation

  • rfharmon
    Original Author
    3 months ago
    last modified: 3 months ago

    @etphonehome, that makes sense. We have this center of the bathroom overhead light in this bathroom, so ambient lighting should be efficient? It has 1600 lumens and changes to 50,000 colors... I would have loved a chandelier but the bathroom is on 7'6" tall.


  • rfharmon
    Original Author
    3 months ago

    @etphonehome, it just dawned on me the 2 of the bathrooms that we discussed have the grey floor tiling running up the wall. Just wondering if that changes your mind about leaving the center wall blank.



  • et phonehome
    3 months ago

    It sounds like that might be enough light but I'm no lighting expert so maybe someone else can chime in on that (or if the lights are already installed you can see for yourself).

    I don't remember what tile you have in the floor in there. I tried to look at the earlier posts but I'm a little confused which is inspiration and which is your bathroom. If it's a grey tile then you can most likely put it on that wall but it isn't necessary and would be more money. But it would probably be nice so I would just say that it's whatever you like. If you'll always look at that wall and wish that you had tiled it then do it. If it were me I would probably want to save the money since it's kind of an expensive extra (in my eyes) but it's up to you

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  • rfharmon
    Original Author
    last month
    last modified: last month

    Hey guys, same bathroom, new question, are you all fans of me adding 2 or 3 white oak shelves inside of this bathroom above the (invisible) tankless smart toilet? To note, my counter is white, my finishes will be black, the ceilings are 7’4”, and the wall tile has not been grouted yet but I will grout it in avalanche (i.e. White).


  • et phonehome
    last month

    Is there any wood in the bathroom anywhere else?

  • rfharmon
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    last month
    last modified: last month

    There are no permanent wood features in this bathroom but I bought a wood lazy Susan for the counter and planned to add either a wood stool or wood bathtub caddy for accents. BUT, if I didn't think there was a chance that I was making a mistake by adding wood shelves, I wouldn't be asking for your opinion so please share your thoughts.

    Here is a better picture of my bathroom (missing: pure white wall paint, rectangular black mirror, black towel rack, and a matte white freestanding bathtub)


    and my design inspiration pictures for the tub caddy and the wood bathroom bench.




  • et phonehome
    last month

    I think it would be nice if it's not the only wood element in the room. But maybe someone else wants to weigh in on whether it would possibly make the room a little dated in the future. So far everything you picked is very classic and probably will never go out of style. This might be leaning a little trendy.... But maybe you're OK with that or maybe I'm reading too much into this :)

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  • rfharmon
    Original Author
    last month

    You just called my selections classics and made my heart melt, thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • et phonehome
    last month

    Lol!

  • graciepunkin
    last month

    I was so happy to find your post! We're remodel twins! Your post helped me get over some of the second guessing I'm having on my selections. We're having this same tile installed in our master bath remodel which is underway now. The tile goes in next week. We're having it installed using a 1/3 staggered pattern which will be floor to ceiling on all walls and the shower walls. We will have similar style vanities as yours and also white quartz countertops. It's great to see your pictures to get a better visual of our plans. I love everything you've done and hope to see more pictures soon!


    I do have a few questions if you don't mind....what grout color are you using? We're hoping to match as closely to the tile color as possible. How did you handle the exposed tile edges-did you do a pencil liner or something else? What is the color name of your white quartz? Your picture with the quartz next to the tile looks great. I need to choose soon and was afraid anything too bright white wouldn't blend well with the tile.


    Yikes, sorry for all the questions and thanks for any input you care to provide! I'd also appreciate any other feedback you think would be helpful as well.


  • rfharmon
    Original Author
    last month
    last modified: last month

    Hi Gracie, best wishes with your tile installation! I brought 4-5 different samples of white quartz to my home before selecting my quartz. Always ask me your questions!


    I think this is an important step because the tile itself pulls off-white so white quartz that pulls blue or is stark white will clash with the tile. I bought Design Studio Just White quartz because it was a jumbo slab that I needed for my kitchen and it did not clash with the cabinets or this bathroom tile. You can find it here: https://www.designstoneusa.com/essential-series/just-white/. MSI and Daltile also have white quartz that work, just stay away from the tile with the big flake in it it- it looks cheap and has too much personality for this modern tile.


    Also, I used the quartz in the shower niche and on my shower bench. It was a nice finishing touch!

    Just wondering, what tile did you choose for you bathroom and shower floors?

  • RedRyder
    last month

    Regarding the wood shelves: I think they’re a great idea if you add one or two more wood accessories. A wood garbage can? A teak bench? So far, this bathroom is fabulous. I hope you’re loving it because it sure looks like what you said you wanted!

  • graciepunkin
    last month

    Thanks rfharmon for the quartz info! I'll check it out. We're going with a 12x24 light gray concrete-look porcelain tile on the floor and a concrete-look penny tile for the shower floor. What did you use? I'd love to see pictures!


    We're also going with white quartz for the bench and also the shower curb. We have two separate vanities so I'm hoping we have enough left from one slab. My plan as of now is to use the same Maximo tile for the shower niche.


    Do you have any exposed tile edges? We'll have a couple of outside corners that will have the edges exposed and I'm torn on if I want a liner or if I should go another route.

  • rfharmon
    Original Author
    last month
    last modified: last month

    We used concept grey 12x24 tiles on the floors and the 1” concept grey hexagons in our shower floor. Both can be found on the floor and decor website.

    we used white metal trim on our corners. It looks nice but silver looked better, in the floor and decor Demo (see picture). We were supposed to use silver but someone made a mistake. silver won’t be an option for you tho, since your going with warmer (brown) floor and shower tile unless you are using silver finishes. I’m using black faucets, etc. So, maybe, try white trim? they sell 5/16 tile trim (the size that you will need for this tile) at Home Depot, Lowes, and Floor and decor.



    Clarification, the back is my shower niche is this tile, the shelves around surround is Quartz.


    my only concern/ about your design is using this glossy tile for your shower landing. I thought and still think having 3 different horizontal floors (shower, landing, and bathroom floor) was too busy.


    I’ll try to post pictures of my finished bathroom soon. My house is currently being painted so everything is taped up.

  • et phonehome
    last month

    One other thought is that you want something with some texture for a bathroom floor so it will be less slippery. A glossy tile might be slippery

  • graciepunkin
    last month

    Thank you both for the feedback. Just to clarify, the 12x24" concrete look tiles are not glossy at all. Actually they have a good bit of texture. Same with the concrete look penny tile, it has a rougher texture and is rated for shower floors. Both flooring tiles are light gray instead of brown toned-the picture isn't great so I linked it below to show the gray color better.


    https://www.flooranddecor.com/porcelain-tile/organic-resin-smoke-porcelain-tile-100195973.html#prefn1=productSubtype&prefv1=Floor+or+Wall+Tile&prefn2=shape&prefv2=Rectangle&prefn3=size&prefv3=12+x+24&sz=120&showBrand=true&start=1


    Excellent point about the quartz shower landing! Especially having a white strip running alongside all gray flooring. I agree that would look rather busy and now I'm stumped. I'd rather have a single piece with no grout lines. Ideally, I would like a poured concrete look. Back to the drawing board on that.


    Our contractor is also recommending the white metal Schluter trim which is what I think we'll do. I want it to blend closely to the tile instead of using a contrasting color like silver. In a perfect world the outside corners would be mitered but that is a no-go. I'd love to see a close up picture of your trim.


    Forgot to mention, the water closet walls will not be tiled. I'll probably have those walls and all the ceilings painted to match the tile field background since there will already be a lot going on with all the tile.


    We had a snafu with the vanity sizing and placement limitations once a wall was removed so now we're scrambling to get custom cabinets which will take several more weeks. The plan is to keep moving forward and we'll just have everything else finished except for the vanities and sinks. I've made so many changes in the past week, our contractor is probably ready to kill me!


  • rfharmon
    Original Author
    last month

    We used the large tile for our shower landing. It's only 6" by 36" wide so it worked perfectly with no grout lines. How big is your shower landing that you can't use this oversized tile? BTW, we used avalanche grout by Mapei for the large tile.

  • rfharmon
    Original Author
    last month

    Here is a picture of my shower niche with the quartz surround (covered in plastic, due to paint). The back is our oversized tile.


  • graciepunkin
    last month

    Beautiful shower wall and niche! I can't tell you how exciting is it to see your pictures. I've been so nervous about this tile and you've helped to put my mind at ease. I'd love to see a pic of your shower landing if you get a chance.


    Our landing is probably close to the size as yours if we measure from the front of the shower to where the bench starts, so no, there wouldn't be grout lines with the large tile (honestly, we didn't even think to use the large tile but that may be a good option). We were planning to use the white quartz for the shower landing but I agree that's a lot of different surfaces in/near the shower. I would like to use something like our gray floor tile for the landing if it was available in a large format to avoid grout lines. Thanks for the input and the info on the grout color!

  • rfharmon
    Original Author
    last month
    last modified: last month

    This is not my picture. This is another bathroom from above but this example is very similar to what I saw at Floor and Decor, as an example with this tile-- Silver trim (which never of us will use :-) and our tile on the landing.


    I added the quartz shower niche surround because someone on Houzz had our tile and it made the bathroom look more expensive and nice more thought-out. I got this shower quartz tile for $250 from a scrap yard but was willing to pay my original quartz fabricator $750 for it but they never delivered it. Point of reference for value to me-- in case you're considering this option.


    I actually pain for a quartz shower landing to be cut out of my counter top material but did not use it.-- this is how bad of an idea that I think this is....


    My fear of using this oversized tile is that it would look like a lazy design choice/c it is so big until I saw it installed at an expensive tile store and I knew immediately that it was a good choice. Also, the expensive tile/quartz stores also have a more expensive version of this tile (it is very similar quality). I think the worst thing that we can do is overly design a bathroom with this over sized tile, KISS. I've seen it overly designed (like the floor and decor, for example) and it just ages the bathroom unnecessarily and makes the tile look cheap to me.


    I will try to take a picture of my bathroom ASAp but again, it is currently covered in plastic now due to painting.

  • graciepunkin
    last month

    Thank you for the visual. I know you must be excited to be so close to completion. We're a long way off but they did put up three tiles on the walls today and I love it. We were going to do a 1/3 staggered but now we're doing a 1/2 staggered. It works out much better with our wall sizes (an odd shaped room). I was worried about a zipper effect but the tiles are so large it doesn't give that vibe.


    Turns out my shower landing is 58" long so I was way off (brain is mush from all these measurements) and the large tile will not be long enough. After speaking with the contractor, I may end up using the quartz on the landing since it will be on the shower bench and also the top of the shower half wall (will be a half wall above where the bench is). My concern was breaking up the all gray floors with a single strip of white quartz but I forgot the large format tile will be tiled up the shower curb sides (the curb side tile also connects to the bench side tile and the wall tile on the other end) so it may work but I'm still thinking it through. He recommended doing all three surfaces in the same quartz for consistency. I didn't even think about the top of the half wall because originally I was going to have that be a full back wall until I saw it framed up and it blocked too much of the room. Actually, the pic you posted above is making me reconsider taking the glass all the down to the bench on the back shower wall instead of the half wall. The only reason I didn't do that in the first place was I think I would feel a bit exposed, lol. UGH, so many decisions!

  • rfharmon
    Original Author
    last month

    Can anyone please give me their thoughts about my mirror sections? This is a 24”x36” rectangular mirror and a 30” round mirror. Does both need to be larger? do you prefer round or rectangular?


  • graciepunkin
    last month

    I think the rectangular mirror is perfect.

  • et phonehome
    last month

    I also like the rectangular one

  • et phonehome
    last month

    I would center the mirror between the lights even though it won't be center over the sinks

  • rfharmon
    Original Author
    last month

    @et phonehome, using which shaped mirror? Round or rectangular? also, I have a larger round mirror here For your review.



    if you prefer rectangular shape, maybe I need a larger rectangle mirror too?

  • et phonehome
    last month

    I definitely like the rectangular one. I think the size is OK, you could go bigger (not too much) but I'm not sure if it's worth the hassle to look for something just a little bigger. I love the way it's coming out!

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  • rfharmon
    Original Author
    6 days ago

    Hey guys, I have another question about this bathroom. I'm struggling to decide the right height for the enclosed shower doors. I originally saw tile on the ceiling and a steam shower but that didn't happen although I have hardy board on this showering ceiling but now I can't help but think that these shower doors should go to the ceiling. Please help me decide.


    My bathroom:


    Example of bathroom w/glass to ceiling:



    Example of bathroom with glass stopping before ceiling:



  • graciepunkin
    5 days ago

    We just did the glass measurements a few days ago. Our ceiling is 96" high and our glass will be 80" high to allow for ventilation. The standard height 76" per the three glass companies that gave us estimates. Going up 4 more inches was just an additional $100.


    Not sure if this is of interest to you, but I'm not having the silicone beading at any point where the stationary glass panels meet the shower curb, the bench, or the half wall base. That was important to me after a ton of research and seeing what others are doing with success to combat the mildew stains in the silicone. All three glass companies we spoke with were fine with it and said a lot of homeowners are now requesting this. However, our GC's glass company was going to require us to have the silicone beading at the bases and were told by our GC to find our own glass company so we did.


    If by chance you are providing the shower door handle, you'll need to have it available when ordering/measuring. This is delaying the fabrication until it arrives (hopefully today). They explained the holes for the handles are made when the entire door panel is fabricated and they need the actual handle (not just the spec sheet). I assumed they just cut the holes on site but it doesn't work that way. I just wanted a specific handle that tied in with our cabinet hardware.