Yes. Surprised that the upcharge isn't more. If the window was a different brand it would be.

Agree with ARG, (who undounbtedly has a real foundation for this opinion). I've watched black on black windows explode on Houzz, and I think that's a real danger sign.

Agree with ARG, (who undounbtedly has a real foundation for this opinion),

I always advise my clients that if they wish to copy the latest trend (and that's what black windows are...who saw them anywhere just a few years ago), they are already too late.

Not sure if that is reasonble but would be fairly easy to check since they are widley available. Details such as if they are black out and white in, 25 window units vs 25 individual windows, trim accessories , ect. will have an effect on pricing as well.

I think black windows have never went out of style and the upswing in there popularity is here to stay. They sure look great when used with the right colors and style of home.

and the upswing in there (sic) popularity is here to stay.

Regarding another trend, I remember folks saying that about lime green shag carpeting. Of course, carpeting is a whole lot easier to change than windows.

What's wrong with my lime green shag carpeting?? I suppose you don't like beads in doorways or lava lamps either?

Lava lamps are ok. They're kind of like clouds. ;)

Bronze windows are a lot less trendy and more timeless. And can look equally dark, but not as stark, as a color emphasis.

We got Milgard Black Bean windows, which are actually a very, very dark brown.

I agree that switching previously white or different color windows with black is a trend that will probably wane. In my opinion, a house that had original black windows- replace with black, in general. There are exceptions, yes. But changing to black just because it seems popular, no.

@Jennifer K - just don't shake 'em up

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I think black windows have never went out of style and the upswing in there popularity is here to stay. They sure look great when used with the right colors and style of home.

Like how everyone swore by painting all walls beige?

Or how about that 70's paneling on walls?

Or wallpapering any wall that was vertical?

Oh and tiled countertops?

Exotic wood flooring?

Or new Victorian style houses?

Or new Tuscan style houses?

Or 80's modern houses?

Or honey oak kitchen cabinets?

I was referring to windows specifically.

I was referring to windows specifically.

Actually they too have gone in and out of style.

When wood windows were the standard and you wanted a different colour you painted them rather than asking a million strangers what to do.

(I fondly recall my orange shag wall-to-wall.)

White windows are the cheapest choice and 100% found on the lowest quality windows. Cheapest never goes out of style.

@worthy - or the shag carpeting right up the walls to the ceiling....

What an odd statement to equate color with quality.

or the shag carpeting right up the walls to the ceiling....

Saved that for the shag(ing) van.! Photo

Its difficult to offer advice without knowing the type of windows, the design of the house or the upcharge per window. This kind of detail should reinforce the larger design ideas rather than conform to trends. A good design has a heirarchy of ideas rather than a collection of them.

The Andersen 100 is not a traditional window design so if the house is modern, black frames and sash might be appropriate.

For a traditional style house I prefer a more traditional window design with white window frames and black sash.

Call an Anderson dealer and get a quote for windows only in each color. That's the info you need.

If you look at the lowest quality vinyl replacement windows, they are white.

"If you look at the lowest quality vinyl replacement windows, they are white."

And a Yugo used to be available in a similar color pallet as a Mercedes so what does that say? The best vinyl replacement windows also come in white as does your usual go to the Marvin Fiberglass,, so again. Also the question was not in any way about the quality of a vinyl window or vinyl windows in particular.

Thanks to the one person that actually answered the question of the post…lol

The success of a question on the forum is often dependent on how well it is framed. How could anyone know what is “reasonable” for you? We don’t even know the number of the windows.

It would help to know what the total cost of the windows was before the up charge. That would help to determine what percentage increase the black windows are. My personal opinion on black exterior windows is that they blend in better and sort of disappear with the glass of the building as opposed to sticking out.  It's a cleaner look in my opinion.

The seller's mark-up will be whatever the market will bear. Right now black windows are popular so that number is large. Whether it's a reasonable number is something only you can decide. For me, $7k would not be worth it. For others, it might.

Thanks to the one person that actually answered the question of the post…lol

It seems here that the folks who can't be bothered with commenting on other's posts are always the ones who find fault with those who do (29 posts with zero comments). I'm sure with Panda Bears build to date there's a wealth of experience to share there.

I'm with ArchitectRunnerGuy. This is a trend, and it's something that'd be quite expensive to change out later. Unless it's genuinely something you absolutely adore and are planning around, skip the black windows.

Consider, too, that they only work with a few styles -- mainly "modern farmhouse". A two-story brick house in typical 80s style in my neighborhood changed to black windows -- looks absolutely awful.

Trend or not they look great when done with right colors and this goes beyond a sudo farmhouse and a 80’s brick house. As Dan1888 had stated cheapness rules and white vinyl rules the market.

they look great when done with right colors

Yes. And so do white windows. Just because something is common, doesn't mean it's cheap. (btw, pseudo, not sudo)

Are you talking about the insides or out. For the Pella lifestyle series (which is what I bought for ours), the black stain inside was the most expensive color and was about $7k vs. no stain/bare wood. Have you shopped the Pella lifestyle stuff? Its pretty nice and was the exact same price as the Anderson 100s

"Have you shopped the Pella lifestyle stuff?"

Let us know what you think of them in 10 years...................

Millworkman with the Sunday funny.

You have to remember these are the days of people (builders) putting in plygem windows because they can't find anything else. You can't go wrong with pella and anderson imo. A lifetime warranty on the windows until you move helps some sleep at night I guess.

Who's warranty is lifetime?

And by "lifetime" you meant non-transferable, right? So they can just continue to rot out on the next owner.

https://www.complaintsboard.com/pella-b120041

Unfortunately the only difference between Plygems and Pella are the letters that come after the "P" and the dollars.

Pella does and yes its not transferrable. So what windows do you window experts recommend? Use who you like and I'll use who I like. Never had any issues with Pella and their quality is excellent. Have AAMA tested many myself.

Are you guys the "grumpy old men" of the forum?

https://www.complaintsboard.com/andersen-windows-doors-b106963

Seriously what's your point.

While I realize that an anecdote is not the same as data, my experience with Pella on a previous custom home was horrendous. I requested their blinds between the glass because my husband had just been diagnosed with multiple allergies and was being injected way too often.

About half of the Pella windows leaked. Others had problems with the blinds. The local Pella dealer broke two replacement windows while attempting to install them, so we lived for months with plywood over the window openings on the front of our new home while waiting on new windows. The corporate office denied any responsibility for the windows and refused to assist in any way. The local dealer with whom the custom builder had contracted finally stopped responding to his calls. I was told the windows were designed to allow air infiltration, which also meant water could be blown inside.

This all happened nearly two decades ago. We haven't used Pella windows, and we've told our grown children to avoid them.

That is a good movie. Don't hate on Grumpy old men. Not used to be people calling me old. Especially when I can out-lift them in the gym.