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New to Kitchens? Read Me First! - OBSOLETE

Buehl
5 years ago
last modified: 3 years ago

***** UPDATED Originating Post *****

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Welcome!

If you are new to Houzz's Kitchens Forum (formerly, GardenWeb's Kitchens Forum), you may find the following information and links to various topics helpful as you begin your Kitchen journey. These topics will help you navigate the world of kitchen remodeling and, in the process, introduce you to ideas that you may not have thought of or seriously considered.

We begin by helping you come up with a "Mission Statement" or "Goal" for your future kitchen and continue through the planning, implementation, and, finally, the unveiling of your final kitchen and the enjoyment of working in a kitchen that YOU helped come to pass!

In addition, there are a set of threads that form the Kitchen Design FAQs that will be useful for understanding kitchen design as well as asking for help. Read these threads to get not only an idea of the best practice design principles/guidelines, but also to understand the comments you will receive when you post your layout for comments.

When you have a preliminary layout, post it here for critiquing. If you have no layout and don't know where to start, that's OK! We can help you start. Simply post a blank slate of the space. Whether a new build or a remodel, read the "Layout Help" FAQ thread (see below) - it discusses what information we need to help you get the best layout for you, your family, and your space.

One very important note before we begin…

When asking questions (e.g., asking for layout help), please keep in mind that everyone here is trying to help, not criticize maliciously. Some of us can be blunt, but no one is out to deliberately insult or hurt anyone. When your kitchen is done, we want you to have a kitchen that functions wonderfully well and looks nice overall -- but the process will take time and may entail comments that many times you won't want to hear (e.g., when a layout is dysfunctional). We strongly recommend you "keep listening" to what others have to say but, in the end, you don't have to take any advice given here. It's your kitchen and you are the one who will make the final decisions!

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Again, welcome and good luck! The journey is wild, sometimes bumpy, but fun and very rewarding in the end!

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FAQ TOPICS (select the topic URL to navigate to the FAQ)

1. Defining Your Goal for Your Remodel: http://finishedkitchens.blogspot.com/p/the-sweeby-test.html

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2. Asking for Layout Help…Please read this thread before posting your layout for help. This thread describes what we need to effectively help you with your layout. Without this information, people will only be able to give you general information and/or guesses as to what might work for you. Read the Layout Help thread and provide the requested information when asking for help (e.g., fully measured layout of the space, sketch of the entire floor, constraints, etc.).https://www.houzz.com/discussions/5500789/faq-how-do-i-ask-for-layout-help-what-information-should-i-include

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3. Humorous discussion of workflow and other layout topics (a.k.a., the "Ice.Water.Stone.Fire" thread): https://www.houzz.com/discussions/2699918/looking-for-layout-help-memorize-this-first

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4. Kitchen Design Guidelines/Best Practices…These threads discuss recommended guidelines and best practices for a functionalKitchen design:

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5. Design Considerations…This thread discusses and illustrates several considerations needed when designing Kitchen components. E.g., why refrigerators need space between them and deep walls, why two seats cannot share the same leg/overhang space on an island with corner seating, etc.: https://www.houzz.com/discussions/4306236/kitchen-design-layout-considerations

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6. IKEA Hacks: https://www.houzz.com/discussions/4306128/ikea-hacks-compilation-of-ikea-hacks

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7. Stone Information…This thread discusses selecting a stone material, installing it, and maintaining it: https://www.gardenweb.com/discussions/2558824/stone-information-and-advice-and-checklists

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8. Preparing for and Surviving Your Remodel, including a Temporary Kitchen:

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9. MiscellaneousOther Items: https://www.houzz.com/discussions/5500839/faq-other-items-of-interest

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10. Acronyms: https://www.houzz.com/discussions/faq-thread-acronyms-abbreviations-and-definitions-dsvw-vd~5364389

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As you review the above threads, please check to see if there are more than 50 comments/posts on the thread. If there are, you will need to repeatedly select the "See xxx more comments" link to see the entire thread. [To see the number of comments, look at the "Comments (xxx)" text below the sharing links. The "See xx more comments" link is below the comment #s and just above the responding comments.]


One final note: Please do not post questions on this or any of the FAQ threads listed in this thread. If you have questions, search the Forum (see "Using the Kitchens Form" topic above). If you cannot find an answer to your question or you think the answers are outdated, then start a NEW thread of your own - do not hijack someone else's thread or post to an FAQ.

Comments (1.1K)

  • Buehl
    Original Author
    3 years ago

    ~bump~~bump~~bump~ (scroll up to see more info)

  • Buehl
    Original Author
    3 years ago

    Three things to keep in mind:

    (1) If you would like layout help...first, please read the Layout Help FAQ. Then post a fully-measured layout (all wall segments/windows/doors/doorways) of the space and a sketch of the entire floor. [Also see "Work Zones, What Are They?", "Aisles Widths, Seating Overhangs, etc.", "Storage Planning", and "Ice.Water.Stone.Fire"]

    (2) While this thread has a lot of useful information in the first few posts, that information is not visible b/c this thread has more than 50 comments (an issue with Houzz). If you're using the App, I"m told you cannot get to those comments. So, please use a browser on whatever device you use. Then, select/click on the "See XXX more comments" repeatedly until you get to the first comments.

    (3) Houzz no longer recognizes the old GardenWeb URLs that do not use "https". This includes many of the threads in the Read Me thread and the FAQs (see item (1) for the active URLs for the primary FAQs). In the thread's URL, simply replace "http://ths.gardenweb.com" with "https://www.houzz.com" For some reason, it doesn't always work, but it does most of the time.

    For example:

    4'' Broom Closet from Ikeafans) -- Old URL throws an "Error"


    If the above doesn't work, try using a Google or similar search using the message # and title as it appears in the old URL -- use a Google or similar search engine, not a Houzz search. Using Google or similar, enter "2467902/4-broom-closet-from-ikeafans" in the search box. The first search result should be the Houzz equivalent:


    If that doesn't work either, then the thread isn't available on Houzz (I've run into that a couple of times).

  • Buehl
    Original Author
    3 years ago

    ~bump~

  • Buehl
    Original Author
    3 years ago

    ~bump~~bump~

  • Buehl
    Original Author
    3 years ago

    ~bump~~bump~~bump~

  • darbuka
    3 years ago

    Bump

  • Buehl
    Original Author
    3 years ago

    ~bump~

  • Buehl
    Original Author
    3 years ago

    ~bump~~bump~

  • eld6161
    3 years ago

    Bump to keep this current.

  • salonva
    3 years ago

    BUMP

  • eam44
    3 years ago

    Bumpity bump bump

  • eld6161
    3 years ago

    Moving on up!

  • salonva
    3 years ago

    page 1

  • mama goose_gw zn6OH
    3 years ago

    OMG! It's June already!

  • eld6161
    3 years ago

    Let’s keep this current.

  • salonva
    3 years ago

    Bump

  • eld6161
    3 years ago

    Up we go

  • mama goose_gw zn6OH
    3 years ago

    Bumping because this thread is still such a great resource for the Houzz Kitchens community.

  • Buehl
    Original Author
    3 years ago

    ~bump~

  • eld6161
    3 years ago

    Moving on up

  • salonva
    3 years ago

    again sharing the wealth.

  • salonva
    3 years ago

    to the top!

  • Buehl
    Original Author
    3 years ago

    Bumping, but I'm not sure it will do any good anymore as the comment sorting is all out of whack!

  • Buehl
    Original Author
    3 years ago

    ~bump~ No sense in posting anything else since this won't show up~

  • mama goose_gw zn6OH
    3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    If folks are using the GW url, the comments are still in chronological order, but I assume it's mostly just the GW leftovers who insist on using that url. GW forever!

  • eam44
    3 years ago

    Oh man, I’m getting cranky.

    Does it bug anyone else that people never use the search box here? Like they’re the first poster to ever want to know if their fireclay sink is going to crack (yes, it probably will), or their oven enamel will chip (ahem, Wolf).

    Even worse, it totally chafes my shorts when someone posts, “I’m using XYZ, will they look good together?” and they don’t even bother to post images. Am I supposed to run and search your choices and post images for you?

    It may be time for me to take another Houzz break.

  • eld6161
    3 years ago

    No, eam44 I like reading your posts! Stay put.😊

  • eam44
    3 years ago

    Right back at ya @eld6161!

  • eam44
    3 years ago

    Happy Sunday all!

  • salonva
    3 years ago

    Happy Monday

  • salonva
    3 years ago

    Happy Thursday~

  • eld6161
    3 years ago

    Bump

  • salonva
    3 years ago

    Bumppp

  • salonva
    3 years ago

    Another week already? Sharing the wisdom.

  • tartanmeup
    3 years ago

    Saved it to my ideabook so can share this wonderful post at the ready. Thanks for sharing your wisdom, all you kitchen wizards.

  • Buehl
    Original Author
    3 years ago

    ~bump~

  • salonva
    3 years ago

    That's awesome. I did not know there was a new one.........however, when I clicked on the link guess what?

    The page you requested was not found.

    is it still in progress maybe? I tried to message you but you don't have messaging enabled. thanks

  • mama goose_gw zn6OH
    3 years ago

    Same here--page not found.

  • Buehl
    Original Author
    3 years ago

    Really!!!????!!!!

    Here's the second one...but I'm guessing it won't work for you either...it works for me if I use the URL

    https://www.houzz.com/discussions/5972710/new-to-kitchens-read-me-first-2020-interim-try-2

    They both showed up in the thread list for a couple of minutes, but then they both disappeared.

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    I guess I could try contacting support, but they've never responded in the past, so I don't expect anything different this time. :-(

  • Buehl
    Original Author
    3 years ago

    Since I cannot get the new links to work, I changed the originating post to match what I put in the new Read Me thread. It will have to suffice for now. Still around 1.1K comments, but at least the main information is immediately visible without having to try to get to the first few comments.

    BTW...has anyone else seen that the comments are all jumbled up and that it's almost impossible to find the early comments?

    [I did submit a ticket to Support. Let's see if I have any better luck this time than in previous attempts.]

  • Buehl
    Original Author
    3 years ago

    ~bump~

  • Buehl
    Original Author
    3 years ago

    All my other threads have now mysteriously re-appeared (i.e., I suspect the Houzz bug has been fixed). Let's use the first one I created and let this thread slowly fade away.

    Here's the one to go to:

    https://www.houzz.com/discussions/5972404/new-to-kitchens-read-me-first-2020-interim#n=1

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